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Steelers meet with their first prospect of the off season, and it is a quarterback

The Pittsburgh Steelers brass is in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl this weekend, and they have had their first official prospect visit of the offseason -- with a quarterback.

Many people take a look at prospects who are being interviewed by their favorite NFL team as a glimpse into the NFL Draft room and who they might see as potential draftees in the upcoming selection process. For fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers, their minds typically revolve around cornerbacks, safeties, defensive linemen and maybe an occasional offensive lineman.

Well, the Steelers are in Mobile, Alabama for the annual Senior Bowl and the team has concluded their first official prospect visit with -- a quarterback.

Talk about throwing fans through a loop, but the team officially met with USC QB Cody Kessler, per WalterFootball.com. Kessler is coming off a Senior season where the 6-foot 1-inch quarterback threw for 3,536 yards, with 29 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. He finished the season with a 151.7 quarterback rating and a completion percentage of 66.8.

So, you might be wondering why the Steelers would be talking to a quarterback? That answer is easy. Landry Jones still has one year left on his current contract, but every other quarterback in the system is now a free agent, Bruce Gradkoswki and Mike Vick. The team clearly liked what they saw from Jones in 2015 in relief, and might be looking to draft a young quarterback to possibly be the No. 3 quarterback, and take over the No. 2 duties when Jones' current contract expires.

The Steelers likely won't be looking at a potential quarterback until the latter portions of the draft, and rightfully so with Ben Roethlisberger still having plenty left in the tank for the coming years; however, depth at the position has become an issue, and one which the team is looking into addressing in the draft.

This Saturday when you sit down to watch the Senior Bowl, keep an eye on Kessler -- we know the Steelers will be.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2016/1/28/10853624/steelers-meet-with-their-first-prospsect-of-the-off-season-and-it-is
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Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea
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Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol
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SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol

Ben's looked older and older each year. He's not going to be around forever.

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The Steelers organization knows far more about the QB situation than the media or fanbase, Ben is a HOF QB and Steeler nation loves him for good reason. Ben will be 34 next season and before people start making comparisons to Manny or Brady their situations are much different. Ben has had a mostly healthy couple of seasons but his list of injuries is staggering for any professional athlete and that is really wearing on Ben. QB is the most important position in football and the Rooneys are apparently addressing the issue before it's too late.
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harrison'samonster wrote:
SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol

Ben's looked older and older each year.  He's not going to be around forever.

Older and older? he's had his best 3/4 year run statistically under Haley and showing no signs of slowing down.

You're smokin' some serious ganja my man WOW! lol
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SteelersNorth wrote:
harrison'samonster wrote:
SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol



Ben's looked older and older each year.  He's not going to be around forever.

Older and older? he's had his best 3/4 year run statistically under Haley and showing no signs of slowing down.

You're smokin' some serious ganja my man WOW! lol


agreed, I think ben has another strong 5 years left

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Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.
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vasteeler wrote:
SteelersNorth wrote:
harrison'samonster wrote:
SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol



Ben's looked older and older each year.  He's not going to be around forever.

Older and older? he's had his best 3/4 year run statistically under Haley and showing no signs of slowing down.

You're smokin' some serious ganja my man WOW! lol


agreed, I think ben has another strong 5 years left

People seem to forget when Ben did go down this season AB was basically no where to be seen for those 4 weeks.
Ben is the Steelers right now and for the forseeable future (I'm hoping another 5 years) along with another for sure 1 but hopefully 2 more Super Bowl titles.

I know this falls on a lot of deaf ears but I can't believe how people think when the guy is in the prime of his career still...its mind boggling.
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SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol

Easy there, all i said was he was getting older. You can't deny that he's looked more prone to injury these past couple years. I don't know about you but I started holding my breath every time the guy gets sacked. He's tough, but the accumulation of hits he's taken over his career is gonna take its toll sooner or later.

Good for Brady if he's 38 and still playing, but not everybody has had a career of never getting touched in the pocket (or their head coach stealing plays so you get the proper blitz protection every time Steelers have their first prospect visit, and it's a quarterback 1797695198 )

In any case I think Ben has at least 3 more good years in him, maybe 4-5 if the o-line keeps playing well. What worries me is who's behind ben. Gradkowski is returning from IR and may not even be back. Vick? Come on man. Landry Jones had half a decent game and sucked every other time we put him in. I don't mind drafting a QB if it's the BPA as an insurance policy, and I'm not saying spend the first round pick on one, but hey if you can land a russel wilson type of qb in the 3rd round why the hell not. You never know what can happen in the NFL.
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I also have no problem with us preparing. Ben's been great but what screwed us in the 80's after Bradshaw retired was not having a QB. And you need a good one even more as the league has become more and more pass first.
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QB is the most important position in the NFL....if the brass feels a worthwhile replacement is available when they pick.....they should make the pick.

Good/franchise QB's don't grow on trees.

Projecting 5 more years for Ben at his current level of play is too optimistic IMO.
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Fire Arians wrote:
SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol



Easy there, all i said was he was getting older. You can't deny that he's looked more prone to injury these past couple years. I don't know about you but I started holding my breath every time the guy gets sacked. He's tough, but the accumulation of hits he's taken over his career is gonna take its toll sooner or later.

Good for Brady if he's 38 and still playing, but not everybody has had a career of never getting touched in the pocket (or their head coach stealing plays so you get the proper blitz protection every time Steelers have their first prospect visit, and it's a quarterback 1797695198 )

In any case I think Ben has at least 3 more good years in him, maybe 4-5 if the o-line keeps playing well. What worries me is who's behind ben. Gradkowski is returning from IR and may not even be back. Vick? Come on man. Landry Jones had half a decent game and sucked every other time we put him in. I don't mind drafting a QB if it's the BPA as an insurance policy, and I'm not saying spend the first round pick on one, but hey if you can land a russel wilson type of qb in the 3rd round why the hell not. You never know what can happen in the NFL.

Don't forget Ben's a 'football player' he's not a Brady or Manning where when you get close to them its like cutting the strings on a marionette.

Don't forget he went roughly 3 seasons without getting hurt. Personally I think this past season was odd especially the knee injury because how many other times has he stepped up in the pocket and done that exact thing prior to it and even when he came back? my guess is lots.

I will agree with your statement of being 'worried' when he gets hit. I worry on the ones where he gets crunched on his throwing arm like the Burfict one. But 90% of the time I'm not that worried since he's built like a linebacker.

Personally I think its pointless to draft a QB this season next or even the year after due to the fact that I think if they get IMPACT players like a TE, CB/DB and someone to pair up with Mitchell they could be the top team very quickly, like next year :)
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Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance: CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE
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ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance:  CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE

As much as I make fun of RG3 I could dig that. But I honestly think some team is going to give him a shot at starting again. Too much talent for some teams to not give it a go, especially more desperate ones.

That and I don't think his ego will want to go to any team as a backup yet.
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Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance:  CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE
That's not really a crazy idea if RGIII is willing to be Ben's backup. I agree with our needs but I have TE a little higher. I love Heath but he's getting up there in years, Spaeth is too, and James is just one guy but you're absolutely right about our needs as a whole. I think we should add NT to our needs list too. Steve McC is a FA and behind him we have McCutthers only I think. I think we could go for some o-line depth as well but I think we can do that late since Coach Munchak is great at coaching guys up i.e. Beachum and Alejandro.
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HeinzMustard wrote:
ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance:  CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE

As much as I make fun of RG3 I could dig that. But I honestly think some team is going to give him a shot at starting again. Too much talent for some teams to not give it a go, especially more desperate ones.

That and I don't think his ego will want to go to any team as a backup yet.
I have to agree with that though like you and HM, I think it's a solid idea. I think RGIII probably still feels he can start and I think some team will give him a shot. Honestly the profile I'm looking for is something like this. 26-27 years old, has started at some point, and has some humility. As I said I concede we got really lucky with Batch since Charlie was someone Colbert had drafted in Detroit, someone from the Pittsburgh area, and Charlie wasn't bothered by that he was going to be sitting behind first Tommy Maddox and later Ben. I like Bruce but I think Bruce is a legitimate question mark as is Landry.
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SteelersNorth wrote:
harrison'samonster wrote:
SteelersNorth wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Wouldn't be against drafting a qb honestly. With grad being a free agent and LJ showering nothing, and Ben getting up in years, grooming potential replacements might be a good idea

Up there in years?
That doesn't even make sense.
The Colts got lucky literally to get Luck when Peyton was hurt. Had that not happened Peyton would still be in Indy. But even still he went on to have 3 more suprelative seasons in Denver until this one before he fell off the radar.
The Cheatriots have drafted a guy in the 2nd round what 3 times in the Brady era and they never see the field and he's 38.

So if the Steelers draft a QB in the first 2 rounds this year then next year teams like San Diego, the Packers, Panthers, and Seahawks should all be looking to get a guy in the first round cause their QBs are 'getting up there' in age.

hilarious how people think lol

Ben's looked older and older each year.  He's not going to be around forever.

Older and older? he's had his best 3/4 year run statistically under Haley and showing no signs of slowing down.

You're smokin' some serious ganja my man WOW! lol

why is it so hard to accept that he's getting older? Even football players get old. I didn't say he was getting worse. I said he was getting older. And the older you get, the harder it gets to compete at the top.

He's obviously looked slower, he doesn't move as fast. Yes, he's putting up better numbers, but he's getting older too and I would be surprised if he plays more than 3 more years.

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ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
HeinzMustard wrote:
ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance:  CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE

As much as I make fun of RG3 I could dig that. But I honestly think some team is going to give him a shot at starting again. Too much talent for some teams to not give it a go, especially more desperate ones.

That and I don't think his ego will want to go to any team as a backup yet.
I have to agree with that though like you and HM, I think it's a solid idea. I think RGIII probably still feels he can start and I think some team will give him a shot.  Honestly the profile I'm looking for is something like this. 26-27 years old, has started at some point, and has some humility. As I said I concede we got really lucky with Batch since Charlie was someone Colbert had drafted in Detroit, someone from the Pittsburgh area, and Charlie wasn't bothered by that he was going to be sitting behind first Tommy Maddox and later Ben.  I like Bruce but I think Bruce is a legitimate question mark as is Landry.

Yep that would be ideal, getting somebody who could be a long term reliable backup like Batch was. I really wish we kept Brian Hoyer, he would have been perfect for that kind of role. I'm not sold on him as a starter, but as a backup there's not much that would be better for a reasonable price tag (back then).
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Fire Arians wrote:
ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
HeinzMustard wrote:
ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance:  CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE

As much as I make fun of RG3 I could dig that. But I honestly think some team is going to give him a shot at starting again. Too much talent for some teams to not give it a go, especially more desperate ones.

That and I don't think his ego will want to go to any team as a backup yet.
I have to agree with that though like you and HM, I think it's a solid idea. I think RGIII probably still feels he can start and I think some team will give him a shot.  Honestly the profile I'm looking for is something like this. 26-27 years old, has started at some point, and has some humility. As I said I concede we got really lucky with Batch since Charlie was someone Colbert had drafted in Detroit, someone from the Pittsburgh area, and Charlie wasn't bothered by that he was going to be sitting behind first Tommy Maddox and later Ben.  I like Bruce but I think Bruce is a legitimate question mark as is Landry.

Yep that would be ideal, getting somebody who could be a long term reliable backup like Batch was. I really wish we kept Brian Hoyer, he would have been perfect for that kind of role. I'm not sold on him as a starter, but as a backup there's not much that would be better for a reasonable price tag (back then).
Yeah letting Hoyer go was a mistake. Oh well. If one of your regrets is your backup QB decision, things aren't so bad. Hoyer does fit what I'd look for though yes and ot boot he knows the system some, I thikn so anyhow, I forget if Hoyer's time here was when BA's last year or Haley's first.
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Fire Arians wrote:
HeinzMustard wrote:
ImmaculateGreenePolamalu wrote:
Ben's taken a lot more hits than Brady and Manning have over the years but I think he easily has another 3-4 years left in him. I don't blame them for wanting a good backup though since I don't know if Grad or Jones is the answer there. Honestly, what I'd look at doing is a situation similiar to how we got Batch. Someone who has started some in the league but fell out of favor with the team that drafted them. Granted I will concede Batch was a special case since he was a hometown guy.

I say bring RGIII in to compete for the #2 spot.  Steelers could do a lot worse.

Steelers need to spend draft picks on DBs, DEs (for depth behind Tuitt and Heyward) and maybe a TE.  No need to waste a pick on a QB.

Order of importance:  CB, Free Safety, Strong Safety, DE, TE

As much as I make fun of RG3 I could dig that. But I honestly think some team is going to give him a shot at starting again. Too much talent for some teams to not give it a go, especially more desperate ones.

That and I don't think his ego will want to go to any team as a backup yet.

Good point about RGIII. I could see a team like the Texans, Rams, 49ers or even the Eagles give RGIII a shot at #1.
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I'm probably the black sheep with my belief that Ben has 2 productive seasons left. Ben has a great offensive line and I think that will buy him maybe 1 more season but it might come down to 'The mind is willing but the body is unable'. Thinking a 34 year old QB who has had more major injuries than any QB currently in the NFL or recently retired has 5 seasons left just isn't likely. Ben sitting out the Pro Bowl might not be alarming (since it's become a joke) but couple that with the fact that the Rooneys first visit was with a QB and the Steelers #2 QB situation next year should leave all of us more than concerned and we should be wondering "What's really happening with Ben's health?". The Steelers can't very well take a QB #1 or 2 in the draft and any long time Steeler fan knows they do next to nothing in FA so what are the Rooneys planning? I'm sure whatever they have on tap will leave people scratching their heads but the Steelers will be a better team at the end of the day.
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WCSteeler wrote:
I'm probably the black sheep with my belief that Ben has 2 productive seasons left. Ben has a great offensive line and I think that will buy him maybe 1 more season but it might come down to 'The mind is willing but the body is unable'. Thinking a 34 year old QB who has had more major injuries than any QB currently in the NFL or recently retired has 5 seasons left just isn't likely. Ben sitting out the Pro Bowl might not be alarming (since it's become a joke) but couple that with the fact that the Rooneys first visit was with a QB and the Steelers #2 QB situation next year should leave all of us more than concerned and we should be wondering "What's really happening with Ben's health?". The Steelers can't very well take a QB #1 or 2 in the draft and any long time Steeler fan knows they do next to nothing in FA so what are the Rooneys planning? I'm sure whatever they have on tap will leave people scratching their heads but the Steelers will be a better team at the end of the day.

Agreed.  I don't see that he has too much time left.  Add to that, the end of his career could come with any one hit on any one play.  I think he wants to go out on top, but I hope he doesn't sacrifice too much to do so.

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sign a back up qb rather than draft one. we did that with landry, he sat behind ben and when his number was called he wasn't that good.

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Everyone debating whether or not Big Ben has it in him for x number of years. Not a single post about what Cody Kessler could bring to the table.

Drafting a QB doesn't inherently suggest that the current starter is being usurped or replaced or anything. Just look at Cody Kessler, what round he's projected for, and if he could be a serviceable backup and if we can use that pick on him, feasibly.
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