Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson
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Master_Of_Puppets
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Subject: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:35 pm
yikes. sorry but nobody is worth giving up that many picks. ok now you have a good QB but the rest of your team sucks because he is a huge cap hit so you cant get good free agents ,and you dont have draft picks to find what you need in the draft. plus if he is not happy he will piss and moan to be traded.
if watson is eligible to play now, why not trade him now for a pick, like a 3rd and the rest of the picks are conditional based on when /if he returns. . that would be a win win for both teams. the texans get him off the payroll and at minimum a 3rd and the new team gets to use him for now and only gave up a 3rd.
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Multiple NFL teams offered packages including three first-round draft picks and two third-round picks for Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson in talks with the Texans before last week's trade deadline, sources say.
The lack of resolution to Watson's legal situation scuttled the chances of finalizing a deal. But those offers likely set the market for the record package it'll take this coming offseason to land Watson, who continues to face allegations of sexual misconduct in 22 civil lawsuits, as well as investigations by Houston police and the NFL. Watson has denied wrongdoing.
The Carolina Panthers and Miami Dolphins both engaged with the Texans in the week leading up to the deadline. But Panthers owner David Tepper decided not to move forward before the deadline, and Dolphins owner Stephen Ross followed suit hours before Tuesday's deadline in part because Watson hadn't settled the civil cases. The Philadelphia Eagles and Denver Broncos also did due diligence on Watson and could re-engage in the offseason.
Watson has a no-trade clause and to this point has only waived it to the Dolphins.
Sources say the Texans have continued to seek five or six assets, including at least three unconditional first-round picks, plus additional high picks and/or premium players. And multiple teams were willing to meet that price, provided that certain aspects of Watson's legal situation were resolved. But there was no settlement in his civil cases and the police investigation remained open when Tuesday's 4 p.m. ET deadline passed.
It remains to be seen if that changes before the start of free agency March 16 and the NFL Draft April 28-30.
On the civil side, Watson's deposition in the 22 civil cases can be taken no sooner than Feb. 22, and a pre-trial status conference is set for May. The timeline is less certain on the criminal side; police continue to look into 10 allegations and eventually will hand over their findings to the district attorney, who most likely will pass it along to a grand jury for a charging decision. Once the police investigations are closed, the NFL will seek additional evidence and ramp up its own investigation, which could yield a suspension under the personal-conduct policy.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Oct. 26 the league doesn't have enough information to place Watson, 26, on the Commissioner's Exempt List (paid leave) while the legal process plays out. So, Watson remains eligible to play for now. But Watson requested a trade in January, before the first accusation became public, and has told the Texans he'll never play for them again. The sides agreed at the start of camp that Watson would work out the facility but not play, and he continues to collect his $10 million salary.
IowaSteeler927
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Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:58 am
I wouldn't trade anything for that guy. Over 20 sexual assault/harassment allegations. No thanks. It'd be one thing if it was like one or two random women accusing him then maybe I'd give him the benefit of the doubt because people obviously try to take advantage of other people, particularly if they are wealthy and the other party stands to gain something from making false accusations. We're talking 22 civil cases here though, that's ridiculous.
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Master_Of_Puppets
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Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:05 pm
IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I wouldn't trade anything for that guy. Over 20 sexual assault/harassment allegations. No thanks. It'd be one thing if it was like one or two random women accusing him then maybe I'd give him the benefit of the doubt because people obviously try to take advantage of other people, particularly if they are wealthy and the other party stands to gain something from making false accusations. We're talking 22 civil cases here though, that's ridiculous.
this is the problem with dangling the opportunity for a big payout as justice for assault. you've just gave a motive for fraudulent accusations , and you gave the public a reason to doubt your accusation. one single low life lawyer could orchestrate a civil case like this easily. there could be 1 woman with a legit claim and a lawyer that pointed out a money train to 21 others.
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IowaSteeler927
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Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:26 am
Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I wouldn't trade anything for that guy. Over 20 sexual assault/harassment allegations. No thanks. It'd be one thing if it was like one or two random women accusing him then maybe I'd give him the benefit of the doubt because people obviously try to take advantage of other people, particularly if they are wealthy and the other party stands to gain something from making false accusations. We're talking 22 civil cases here though, that's ridiculous.
this is the problem with dangling the opportunity for a big payout as justice for assault. you've just gave a motive for fraudulent accusations , and you gave the public a reason to doubt your accusation. one single low life lawyer could orchestrate a civil case like this easily. there could be 1 woman with a legit claim and a lawyer that pointed out a money train to 21 others.
Very true. I am not saying he's absolutely guilty (only he and his accusers know the truth), but with all the media hoopla surrounding him, not worth the distraction IMO.
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solardave
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Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:57 am
Even if he never did anything he is accused of why would any team want to take on that kind of distraction much less give up Ditka for Ricky Williams type of draft capitol?
effyou515
Posts : 5148 Join date : 2011-09-28 Location : from upper Ohio Valley to Conyers Ga.
Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:57 am
go ahead over pay for him you still won't win a superbowl with him as a QB.
Master_Of_Puppets
Posts : 2923 Join date : 2011-04-08
Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:57 pm
well i guess one way you can look at it. how many picks can a team waste on their QB search and still dont have a good QB ? browns since 2005 . would it have been worth 3 1st and 2 3rds to the browns in 2005 to trade for a proven top QB ? in hindsight yes.
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Subject: Re: Multiple teams offered packages, including three first-round picks, for Deshaun Watson Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:40 am
Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
well i guess one way you can look at it. how many picks can a team waste on their QB search and still dont have a good QB ? browns since 2005 . would it have been worth 3 1st and 2 3rds to the browns in 2005 to trade for a proven top QB ? in hindsight yes.
It's pretty bad when the Brown latest #1 pick is defended by his wife after last week's game: “No one better say anything bad about Baker Mayfield after this game,” she posted. “I don’t think I have seen toughness like this in a while. Maybe the rest of our team should take the heat and get tougher.”
I guess she knows what she's talking about, he was 15-29 for 176 yds 52.1 QB rating and he had 130yds rushing out of Chubb.
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