Mock Draft 2024?

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

A piece on Murray... Ifind it funny the article says the Steelers need to see Kenny Pickett "fully developed"... it's year 2 for him and he was a 5 year player in College. If he isn't "fully developed" by now he is in the completely wrong system or he is a full blown bust and a journeyman backup QB. From what I have seen I think it's the 2nd one.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pittsburgh-steelers-favorites-land-kyler-murray

He'll be out of our price range and even if he wasn't unless they were going to fire Canada it wouldn't matter who they bring in. I think we need a season with Kenny as QB in an offense not run by Canada or anyone else on the current staff. As much as we all bitched about Arians and Haley they looked like genius' compared to Canada's new version of the run and shoot.

run...run...shoot ourselves in the foot on 3rd and long.

No Kyler Murray please! He believes he doesn't need to watch a lot of tape because in his head "he sees so much". Lazy ass.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10047006-kyler-murray-opens-up-about-criticism-from-study-clause-in-cardinals-contract#:~:text=NFL%20Network's%20Ian%20Rapoport%20reported,the%20deal%20was%20subsequently%20scrapped.&text=Still%2C%20the%20damage%20was%20done%20by%20that%20point.

I'm starting to fall off the Kenny Pickett bandwagon. Just doesn't feel like anything more than a career backup to me. This is year two in the same system playing under the very offensive coordinator who recruited him to Pitt in the first place. He has some moxey and a bit of the clutch gene in the fact he seems to be able to close out games, but he is far too inconsistent overall. Accuracy continues to be a major issue with him. Even when he has the time, even when the pressure isn't right there in his face he's been missing routine throws with some of those throws being TDs if he gets the ball to the receiver. The worst part is not all of these throws are what I would deem to be of the difficult variety as far as NFL quarterbacks go.

So while I really want KP to step up to the plate and prove me wrong, my gut at this point is that he's just another Mitchell Trubisky type that could win you some games as a backup, but he's not the guy that you can rely on to consistently win you football games and put you into playoff contention as a franchise guy. I mean even when the run game is humming, it seems like getting to 200yds passing is like trying to climb Mt. Everest. He either needs to get better fast, or we need to consider drafting a QB yet again.

Also CB and S are starting to become a bigger concern for this team. Outside of JPJ and Minkah we're not very good in the secondary. Neal/Kazee are OK but not great, Pat Pete is losing the battle to father time, and Levi Wallace is the biggest liability in our secondary overall. We need a young talented CB to match up with JPJ and lock things down. Whether they address that in the draft, or in free agency remains to be seen. As for S I think Neal/Kazee are just some run of the mill guys that can get you by, a stop-gap solution if you will. We really need an upgrade at the position. I think Cooper Dejean out of Iowa would slot in nicely at S, a lot of scouts think he's a better fit at S than at CB in the NFL. He's extremely athletic, he's a ballhawk, a great physical tackler, he has good size, good speed, and he offers the versatility to return punts or kicks on the special teams front. He's a smart kid, probably the best player on Iowa's stout defense right now and I would love for him to come and be able to play alongside of and learn from a player of Minkah's caliber.

some people are still trying to blame Canada's offense. pickett is blowing opportunities and leaving a lot of yards and 1st downs on the field and killing drives all on his own. i remember people here getting butthurt when cowherd said he doesnt see greatness in pickett. i just couldnt disagree with him. he simply hasnt shown us any glimpses that he could be an elite QB. . i mean watch CJ strouds 5 TD , 470 yard game last week. a game like that gives you hope. seeing it once lets you know he is capable. has pickett even had a 300 yd passing game yet ? one maybe ?

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

some people are still trying to blame Canada's offense.  pickett is blowing opportunities and leaving a lot of yards and 1st downs on the field and killing drives all on his own. i remember people here getting butthurt when cowherd said he doesnt see greatness in pickett. i just couldnt disagree with him. he simply hasnt shown us any glimpses that he could be an elite QB.  . i mean watch CJ strouds 5 TD , 470 yard game last week. a game like that gives you hope. seeing it once lets you know he is capable.  has pickett even had a 300 yd passing game yet ? one maybe ?

I really don't think Canada's offense is great. Obviously there's something wrong with the scheme when it doesn't seem to matter who's under center and they still struggle in the same fashion. That being said I definitely won't absolve the players from blame here either. They have to execute and while I don't think Canada is always setting them up for the best in regards to success, the players are too often failing to execute. KP missing easy throws to wide open guys and taking points off of the board. Receivers dropping passes, or failing to get their feet down in bounds. Etc... etc...

I normally can't stand Colin Cowherd or Mark Madden for that matter, but I am really starting to agree with those guys on KP. Just seems to me like he's a JAG (Just a Guy) and not the franchise player we all hoped he'd be. I mean, I do hope he comes out and proves me wrong and makes me look like an idiot but nothing I've seen this season suggests to me that Kenny Pickett is special in any way. He just looks like a game manager to me. A Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson kind of guy that can get your team by but isn't going to go out and take the team on his back and win games in that way.

I am also not sold on our defense. These guys get way too much credit like they're one of the top ranked defenses or something when statistically they've been abysmal. Outside of TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith it doesn't seem like anyone else is out there making splash plays. JPJ looks like he can be pretty good but everyone else in the secondary is a liability. The d-line is mediocre at best. Cam is getting long in the tooth, and Benton is still young and progressing but overall the d-line doesn't generate enough pressure IMO and they're not stout against the run. We rely way too much on luck and splash plays for our success. The Ravens game is a prime example of this. If not for their receivers dropping a ridiculous amount of passes, and untimely turnovers they would've stomped us in that game. We were getting torched in the passing game, and they were running the ball on us with ease. I highly doubt the Ravens make those same mistakes next time we play them.

This team has a lot of issues right now overall. Sure they are 6-3, but they've also been outgained offensively in every game and that's not going to hold up all season long. They're going to face tougher competition and the lack of offense isn't going to cut it and we can't afford to be one dimensional. Going to be interesting to see how the rest of this season pans out. Browns/Bengals back-to-back should be pretty telling as to where this team is. Are they for real? Or are they a fraud? We're going to find out.

Well a good sign is we are midway into November football and the team is running the ball better with Jones on the Oline. That can help put Pickett in better short yard 3rd down spots.

I don't believe Pickett is our franchise guy either. I think this will be Canada's last year at OC and they will bring in someone else unless there is a massive turn around in the Offense and they can start putting up more points. The Steelers will be stubborn about Kenny though and allow him to work under a new OC to see if the change will help him grow. My problem with that is Kenny will be 26 years old close to 27 what you see is what you get he doesn't have more to his ceiling.

They need to go out and get someone to challenge Pickett next summer and light a fire under him and challenge him in camp. Could be through the draft or FA but they need to make it known to Kenny that there needs to be improvement or he may be on his way out.

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Well a good sign is we are midway into November football and the team is running the ball better with Jones on the Oline. That can help put Pickett in better short yard 3rd down spots.

I don't believe Pickett is our franchise guy either. I think this will be Canada's last year at OC and they will bring in someone else unless there is a massive turn around in the Offense and they can start putting up more points. The Steelers will be stubborn about Kenny though and allow him to work under a new OC to see if the change will help him grow. My problem with that is Kenny will be 26 years old close to 27 what you see is what you get he doesn't have more to his ceiling.

They need to go out and get someone to challenge Pickett next summer and light a fire under him and challenge him in camp. Could be through the draft or FA but they need to make it known to Kenny that there needs to be improvement or he may be on his way out.

ummm..yeah...i would go putting a steeler RB in as a starter on my fantasy football team. even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Add QB into my top needs for this team going into next season.