Steelers trade for Justin Fields

thats what im sayin. bears fans got a good look at him and they saw potential and things to like enough to want to build around. bears fans are very very familiar with shitty QB's and they dont think fields is a shitty QB. who would know better than them ? the podcast i was watching had 4 bears that blamed the media for diminishing his value.

Rumor leaked that Fields wanted to come here and 4 other teams he had a choice of. That right there tells me a lot. The young man is smart. He knows he can sit and learn and absorb and when it's his turn he can show his skills to a team he wanted to play for that can be on the cusp of greatness.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-news/2024/3/17/24104230/justin-fields-choose-steelers-over-other-suitors-chicago-bears-nfl-trade-2024

I'm a Buckeyes fan too. I think you guys are really going to like Justin Fields. He's a good smart kid with a good attitude. And he's got a LOT of athleticism.

We upgraded the QB room in a big way and a very smart way. Kudos to Khan, he's a genius.

Whether it's RW JF starting this year, I think our offense can be explosive. Smith just needs to bring out the best in all of these guys by a game plan that maximizes their skill sets.
I think this will be the best 1-2 QB room since Ben & Charlie.

He is a one-read QB that holds the ball too long. This is not a QB that can lead a team through the playoffs. Sure, he will make a highlight play once in awhile, but that's it. Tomlin loves inconsistent splash players.

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Fields the last 20 games...

Drop backs =  668
Comp % =  62%
Yds per att = 6.8
TDs/Int's.  =  26-14
Rush TDs = 9

I dare ya to compare Picketts #s... it's not even close in any way shape or form. We got Fields for peanuts and he is better in every facet.

Here are his career stat averages per season...

Passing yards: 2224
Passing TDs: 13.3
INTs: 10
Rushing yards: 740
Rushing TDs: 4.6
Fumbles: 5.3
Sacked: 45


Sacked an average of 45 times per season? Bad O-line, can't sense pressure or holds ball too long becasue he can't read a defense?

Steeldude wrote:

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Fields the last 20 games...

Drop backs =  668
Comp % =  62%
Yds per att = 6.8
TDs/Int's.  =  26-14
Rush TDs = 9

I dare ya to compare Picketts #s... it's not even close in any way shape or form. We got Fields for peanuts and he is better in every facet.

Here are his career stat averages per season...

Passing yards: 2224
Passing TDs: 13.3
INTs: 10
Rushing yards: 740
Rushing TDs: 4.6
Fumbles: 5.3
Sacked: 45


Sacked an average of 45 times per season? Bad O-line, can't sense pressure or holds ball too long becasue he can't read a defense?

Let's give him some time in the pocket and find out. RW tends to hold the ball too long as well, so the same applies.

solardave wrote:

Steeldude wrote:

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Fields the last 20 games...

Drop backs =  668
Comp % =  62%
Yds per att = 6.8
TDs/Int's.  =  26-14
Rush TDs = 9

I dare ya to compare Picketts #s... it's not even close in any way shape or form. We got Fields for peanuts and he is better in every facet.

Here are his career stat averages per season...

Passing yards: 2224
Passing TDs: 13.3
INTs: 10
Rushing yards: 740
Rushing TDs: 4.6
Fumbles: 5.3
Sacked: 45


Sacked an average of 45 times per season? Bad O-line, can't sense pressure or holds ball too long becasue he can't read a defense?

Let's give him some time in the pocket and find out. RW tends to hold the ball too long as well, so the same applies.

I like the "Let's give him a chance" plan. Sometimes a player just needs the right situation, the right system, to flourish.

Interesting and encouraging to me to observe how much Justin progressed this season. About mid-season he really took off. Too many times, people give up too early on young QB's.

Great Randino wrote:

solardave wrote:

Steeldude wrote:

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Fields the last 20 games...

Drop backs =  668
Comp % =  62%
Yds per att = 6.8
TDs/Int's.  =  26-14
Rush TDs = 9

I dare ya to compare Picketts #s... it's not even close in any way shape or form. We got Fields for peanuts and he is better in every facet.

Here are his career stat averages per season...

Passing yards: 2224
Passing TDs: 13.3
INTs: 10
Rushing yards: 740
Rushing TDs: 4.6
Fumbles: 5.3
Sacked: 45


Sacked an average of 45 times per season? Bad O-line, can't sense pressure or holds ball too long becasue he can't read a defense?

Let's give him some time in the pocket and find out. RW tends to hold the ball too long as well, so the same applies.

I like the "Let's give him a chance" plan.  Sometimes a player just needs the right situation, the right system, to flourish.

Interesting and encouraging to me to observe how much Justin progressed this season.  About mid-season he really took off.  Too many times, people give up too early on young QB's.

So do you think they gave up on KP too soon? I think his attitude was a major factor in the trade decision. It appears to have worked out for us. Barring an injury to Hurts I don't think KP will be happy in Philly. I also think there was drama on the horizon with him.

I am very happy to see Pickett gone, dude seemed to have a sense of entitlement but his level of play never justified having such an attitude. 12TD passes in two full seasons with all of the weapons Pickett had at his disposal is plainly unacceptable. I just don't see him doing anything but being a backup/journeyman in this league. He just doesn't have the accuracy and consistency you need from your QB to consistently put points on the board. He missed so many open opportunities last season, I don't think he sees the field well. Rudolph really made a laughing stock of him when he ended up coming off of the bench and looking like a million bucks compared to Pickett who was supposed to be the next best thing.

I'm happy we have Wilson and Fields. We're miles ahead of where we were last season with Pickett and Trubisky as the #1 and #2 guys. I am beyond happy I don't have to watch Pickett miss wide open receivers or Trubisky airmailing passes into the stands.

i spent a lot of time in my youth hanging out in a pool hall and bars. i have shot thousands of games of pool and played even played in a bar pool league. i was pretty good, and won more often than i lost, BUT... my game never went to the level some of my peers were at. i hit my peak , and my peak was just better than average, not great. no matter how much i practiced i couldnt hit the next level.

pickett played 52 games for pitt over 5 years and threw 1,674 passes. he had waaay more time on the field than most QB's coming out of college plus 2 years in the NFL. he is maxed out. i think he may be a bit better under competent coaching, but as a passer he is as good as he is going to get.his arm is not going to get stronger, and his accuracy and ability to read a defense is what it is.

solardave wrote:

Great Randino wrote:

solardave wrote:

Steeldude wrote:

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Fields the last 20 games...

Drop backs =  668
Comp % =  62%
Yds per att = 6.8
TDs/Int's.  =  26-14
Rush TDs = 9

I dare ya to compare Picketts #s... it's not even close in any way shape or form. We got Fields for peanuts and he is better in every facet.

Here are his career stat averages per season...

Passing yards: 2224
Passing TDs: 13.3
INTs: 10
Rushing yards: 740
Rushing TDs: 4.6
Fumbles: 5.3
Sacked: 45


Sacked an average of 45 times per season? Bad O-line, can't sense pressure or holds ball too long becasue he can't read a defense?

Let's give him some time in the pocket and find out. RW tends to hold the ball too long as well, so the same applies.

I like the "Let's give him a chance" plan.  Sometimes a player just needs the right situation, the right system, to flourish.

Interesting and encouraging to me to observe how much Justin progressed this season.  About mid-season he really took off.  Too many times, people give up too early on young QB's.

So do you think they gave up on KP too soon? I think his attitude was a major factor in the trade decision. It appears to have worked out for us. Barring an injury to Hurts I don't think KP will be happy in Philly. I also think there was drama on the horizon with him.

Yes, I do. That said, if he had a bad attitude you gotta trade him. And I'm happy we've got Justin Fields, I think he's a really good kid and a very promising QB.

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

i spent a lot of time in my youth hanging out in a pool hall and bars. i have shot thousands of games of pool and played even played in a bar pool league. i was pretty good, and won more often than i lost, BUT... my game never went to the level some of my peers were at. i hit my peak , and my peak was just better than average, not  great. no matter how much i practiced i couldnt hit the next level.

pickett played 52 games for pitt over 5 years and threw 1,674 passes. he had waaay more time on the field than most QB's coming out of college plus 2 years in the NFL.  he is maxed out. i think he may be a bit better under competent coaching, but as a passer he is as good as he is going to get.his arm is not going to get stronger, and his accuracy and ability to read a defense is what it is.

Well put MoP I wholeheartedly agree.

One thing I have read a lot about is that a ton if Chicago Bears team mates are sad to see Fields go and wanted him to stay their QB. They said he was one of the hardest workers and an excellent team mate and wish the organization would have supported him better. That says a lot about him as a player and a person.

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

One thing I have read a lot about is that a ton if Chicago Bears team mates are sad to see Fields go and wanted him to stay their QB. They said he was one of the hardest workers and an excellent team mate and wish the organization would have supported him better. That says a lot about him as a player and a person.

i said in a post before that a lot of chicago FANS were still in fields corner. team mates can be biased by personal relationships, but fans ? fans only care about the W's and attack anyone and everyone they feel is a road block to those W's.

This deal with Fields could be the best since James Farrior. Way too soon but who knows? Maybe a new OC/Team is just what he needs for his career to take off and I couldn't think of a better place.

solardave wrote:

This deal with Fields could be the best since James Farrior. Way too soon but who knows? Maybe a new OC/Team is just what he needs for his career to take off and I couldn't think of a better place.

He is a gifted athletic freak. Just hope we get him.some protection and let him get comfortable. Way better over all athlete then Pickett is. He got put in a shitty situation in Chicago. Multiple Coaches, multiple Ofensive Coordinators, and a pretty suspect Oline from what I have learned. Chicago didn't set him up for success and the kod never once complained or said anything negative.

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

thats what im sayin. bears fans got a good look at him and they saw potential and things to like enough to want to build around. bears fans are very very familiar with shitty QB's and they dont think fields is a shitty QB. who would know better than them ? the podcast i was watching had 4 bears that blamed the media for diminishing his value.

I wholeheartedly believe that if the Bears were just more patient they could've just continued to build the team around Justin Fields but when you've been at the bottom of the league for as long as the Bears have, I think it makes the FO and Coaching Staff a lot more prone to acting on impulse instead of being patient. I think Fields is in the best situation right now. He's got a Veteran QB in Russell Wilson to learn from, a good mature coaching staff, and he doesn't have all the pressure of the world on him like he did in Chicago. My gut tells me it's the Russell Wilson show, but who knows? Perhaps Fields balls out in camp and takes Wilson's job. At the very least I think Fields is going to see some snaps in certain offensive packages. Gives Arthur Smith yet another tool in his toolbox to play around with.

Insider: Justin Fields Issues Consistent With Steelers
https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/insider-justin-fields-issues-consistent-pittsburgh-steelers

Quote :

For Fields to make a real run at the starting job, he must improve in a few key areas. One of the most important is his accuracy. According to Steelers insider Ray Fittipaldo, Fields was inconsistent when throwing the ball during organized team activities and minicamp. Recently appearing on Press Coverage on SiriusXM NFL Radio, he spoke about the state of the Steelers and the QB battle.

"Fields, from what I've seen, they had a month of spring practices and he's a terrific athlete, but really the knocks against him that I heard coming in actually turned out to be true," Fittipaldo said. "He's not terribly accurate with the ball. His placement isn't all the great, and I could see them maybe having a package or two for him each week depending on the opponent, but I see this team as Russell Wilson's team."

i dont understand how a QB who has a 67.2% and a 70.2% completion percentage in college, develops an accuracy issue in the NFL. then on the flip side, josh allen had accuracy issues in college, yet no one says he has accuracy issues now.
what do QB coaches get paid for ?

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

i dont understand how a QB who has a 67.2% and a 70.2% completion percentage in college, develops an accuracy issue in the NFL. then on the flip side, josh allen had accuracy issues in college, yet no one says he has accuracy issues now.
what do QB coaches get paid for ?

Allen has had better coaches and Fields not so much but that doesn't explain the loss of accuracy by Fields.

solardave wrote:

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

i dont understand how a QB who has a 67.2% and a 70.2% completion percentage in college, develops an accuracy issue in the NFL. then on the flip side, josh allen had accuracy issues in college, yet no one says he has accuracy issues now.
what do QB coaches get paid for ?

Allen has had better coaches and Fields not so much but that doesn't explain the loss of accuracy by Fields.

then there was this in the article

Quote :

The comments made by Fittipaldo are just the latest criticism of Justin Fields' game. In his career, he's never been described as a pocket passer or anything close to it. He has a career completion percentage of 60.3%, compared to Wilson's mark of 64.7%.

what the fuck does that even mean ? are they suggesting he never made throws from the pocket ?
i mean i understand a guy being labelled a pocket passer, but thats because they have shitty mobility because they are slow as fuck, but i've never heard someone that is capable of making shit happen outside the pocket described as a non pocket passer. some teams roll there QB's out a good bit be it because of shitty pass blocking , or what ever reason.

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

i dont understand how a QB who has a 67.2% and a 70.2% completion percentage in college, develops an accuracy issue in the NFL. then on the flip side, josh allen had accuracy issues in college, yet no one says he has accuracy issues now.
what do QB coaches get paid for ?

I think in the case of Fields it comes down to the fact he was playing college ball on a team that generally has a ridiculously talented roster. He gets to face a lot of teams that aren't on the same level talent-wise and gets to pad his stats in those games. He had elite receivers and guys running wide open all the time partially due to their sheer level of talent but also because of the system they ran offensively. When it comes to his play in Chicago he never really had a very good O-Line and his receivers were OK but not great overall.

In regards to Allen he had a stellar junior year as I recall and then lost his top receivers which made him look worse his senior season. It's a big reason I wasn't buying what his detractors were saying leading up to that draft because I had seen the kid play a high level and knew what he was capable of with the right weapons around him.

IowaSteeler927 wrote:

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

i dont understand how a QB who has a 67.2% and a 70.2% completion percentage in college, develops an accuracy issue in the NFL. then on the flip side, josh allen had accuracy issues in college, yet no one says he has accuracy issues now.
what do QB coaches get paid for ?

I think in the case of Fields it comes down to the fact he was playing college ball on a team that generally has a ridiculously talented roster. He gets to face a lot of teams that aren't on the same level talent-wise and gets to pad his stats in those games. He had elite receivers and guys running wide open all the time partially due to their sheer level of talent but also because of the system they ran offensively. When it comes to his play in Chicago he never really had a very good O-Line and his receivers were OK but not great overall.

In regards to Allen he had a stellar junior year as I recall and then lost his top receivers which made him look worse his senior season. It's a big reason I wasn't buying what his detractors were saying leading up to that draft because I had seen the kid play a high level and knew what he was capable of with the right weapons around him.

...dude you been smokin way to much corn husk.  josh allen earned his reputation for being inaccurate. his 2nd year stats are as hideous as his 3rd year...
2016 - 56% compltion percentage ...28 tds... 15 INT's
2017 - 56.3%................................16 tds.....6 ints.

he played 3 more games his 2nd year so he obviously had more attempts and yards, but his accuracy issues remained consistent.
i was one of allens detractors and laughed at you  for pimping him. ...all i can say is his QB coach performed a miracle or allen sold his soul to the devil. one or the other..
allen suffered from the same problem a lot of Big arm qbs suffer from. they think every pass needs to be a laser fast ball and have way more confidence in their arm than they do respect for DB's.
2 more big armed sub 60% completion collegiate QB's drafted in the first round simply because of arm strength were jay cutler and kyle boller. they both continued to struggle with accuracy in the NFL.