Brock says he was fined for hit on Roethlisberger

Seattle Seahawks defensive end Raheem Brock used his Twitter account to do two things on Wednesday:

1. Announce that he’s being fined by the NFL for his late hit on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during Sunday’s game.

2. Dispute that he should be fined by the NFL for his late hit on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during Sunday’s game.

Here’s what Brock tweeted about the fine:
“Fined by the NFL today for being “TRIPPED” by an o’lineman and fallin into the QB’s legs! Smh if I only had super powers to stop mid air”

http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2011/09/21/raheem-brock-says-he-was-fined-for-hit-on-ben-roethlisberger/
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I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Brock. It was a blatant trip by Gilbert.
Watch at about the 1:14 mark:

Wallace108 wrote:

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Brock. It was a blatant trip by Gilbert.

Since when have facts, common sense, and reality ever factored into one of Herr Goodell's decisions?

Sorry but if you watch his actions after he hits the ground, he lunges his body forward and instead of putting his hands on the ground to try and stop himself, he wraps Ben's legs up.

He didn't even try to stop.

Had he tried to stop, I might agree with him. Besides the jack ass makes enough money, pay the fine, and play football. Or better yet, come take my job you pansy ass.

stlrtruck wrote:

Sorry but if you watch his actions after he hits the ground, he lunges his body forward and instead of putting his hands on the ground to try and stop himself, he wraps Ben's legs up.

He didn't even try to stop.

Had he tried to stop, I might agree with him. Besides the jack ass makes enough money, pay the fine, and play football. Or better yet, come take my job you pansy ass.

Brock hit Ben as he was falling. And the reason he was falling is because Gilbert tripped him. And he continued to try to make a play even as he was falling, but don't we love when Steelers players give that kind of effort?

It's similar to this play by Troy (had to borrow it from a user's sig at SF ):



In that clip, Troy gets hit and is falling ... but still tries to make the tackle.
In Brock's case, he gets by Gilbert and is running toward Ben. Then Gilbert trips him, and he falls toward Ben. And in trying to still make a play, he hits Ben's knee.

I have a feeling if that had been Keisel or Smith who got fined for the same thing, we'd be creaming bullshit and death to Goodell.

I don't have a problem with a player getting fined and even suspended if he purposely does something that could injure another player.

Take, for instance, what Charles Martin did to Jim McMahon:



But I don't think players should be fined for just trying to make a play. Even if it draws a flag, it shouldn't draw a fine. And in Brock's case, Gilbert should have been flagged for tripping and it should have been offsetting penalties.

thats too funny! any time i am at SF and i see that sig i cant help but watch it a few times.......amazing play

The difference is who is getting hit and where. Ben, being a QB, is not allowed to get hit below the knees unless he becomes a runner. Then he's fair game. When he's in the pocket, you're not allowed to hit him below the knees.

And NO I don't like it when our players do that to QBs (at least now that the rules have changed to protect Brady and Manning).

With Troy's play, he was going after a RB, therefore what he did was completely legal.

But then again, I think it might also be that I was finally happy to see a penalty go against someone else for a change.

Regardless he still deserved the fine!

stlrtruck wrote:

The difference is who is getting hit and where. Ben, being a QB, is not allowed to get hit below the knees unless he becomes a runner. Then he's fair game. When he's in the pocket, you're not allowed to hit him below the knees. ...
With Troy's play, he was going after a RB, therefore what he did was completely legal.

I wasn't trying to compare Brock's hit with Troy's hit in terms of legality. I was just showing how a player can be knocked off target, if you will, and end up hitting a player where he didn't intend to. I'm not disagreeing that Brock's hit deserved a flag. But I don't think every flag deserves a fine. Only in instances where a player does something intentional should a fine be handed out. And I don't think Brock intended to go after Ben's knee. That's just where he ended up after getting tripped and continuing to go forward to make a play.

stlrtruck wrote:

And NO I don't like it when our players do that to QBs (at least now that the rules have changed to protect Brady and Manning).

I think this is at the heart of your argument ... as well as many others I've seen on other boards. We watched Harrison get fined multiple times last season while Ben took some BS hits that didn't even draw flags, much less fines. So I think Steelers fans are happy to see an opposing player get fined for hitting Ben. While it's a little more fair than what we saw happen last season in terms of fines, it doesn't make it right. Rather than taking comfort when other players (and fans) share in our misery, I think we should keep speaking out against these bullshit changes to the game we love and the unnecessary fines.

Wallace108 wrote:

stlrtruck wrote:

The difference is who is getting hit and where. Ben, being a QB, is not allowed to get hit below the knees unless he becomes a runner. Then he's fair game. When he's in the pocket, you're not allowed to hit him below the knees. ...
With Troy's play, he was going after a RB, therefore what he did was completely legal.

I wasn't trying to compare Brock's hit with Troy's hit in terms of legality. I was just showing how a player can be knocked off target, if you will, and end up hitting a player where he didn't intend to. I'm not disagreeing that Brock's hit deserved a flag. But I don't think every flag deserves a fine. Only in instances where a player does something intentional should a fine be handed out. And I don't think Brock intended to go after Ben's knee. That's just where he ended up after getting tripped and continuing to go forward to make a play.

stlrtruck wrote:

And NO I don't like it when our players do that to QBs (at least now that the rules have changed to protect Brady and Manning).

I think this is at the heart of your argument ... as well as many others I've seen on other boards. We watched Harrison get fined multiple times last season while Ben took some BS hits that didn't even draw flags, much less fines. So I think Steelers fans are happy to see an opposing player get fined for hitting Ben. While it's a little more fair than what we saw happen last season in terms of fines, it doesn't make it right. Rather than taking comfort when other players (and fans) share in our misery, I think we should keep speaking out against these bullshit changes to the game we love and the unnecessary fines.

This BS will change when Der Kommish is no longer in the FO of the NFL.

stlrtruck wrote:

This BS will change when Der Kommish is no longer in the FO of the NFL.

And that we can agree on.

Wallace108 wrote:

stlrtruck wrote:

This BS will change when Der Kommish is no longer in the FO of the NFL.

And that we can agree on.

I knew you'd eventually see things my way!