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PostSubject: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 2:03 am

Cortez Allen pointing to several 'Coach Tomlin questions'

By Neal Coolong

NFL teams are required to list participation reports after three practices leading into each week’s game. Steelers cornerback Cortez Allen has been listed as a full participant far less often than he’s been listed as having been limited, according to Tribune Review reporter Chris Adamski.

Officially, he’s listed as having a knee injury, the same one he got during the Steelers’ Week 1 loss to the Patriots*.

It’s peculiar that he’s bounced between participating fully and being limited so often over such a long stretch of time. As Adamski pointed out, this is the same Cortez Allen who was benched and placed on injured reserve last year. At least with that he had a tangible injury — a broken thumb that required surgery.

Similar sentiment comes out regarding Brandon Boykin and what’s amounting to be one of the least beneficial trades in recent memory. The Steelers appear set in their cornerback rotation of Will Gay, Antwon Blake and Ross Cockrell. But considering contracts and traded draft picks, the most expensive Steelers cornerbacks appear to need divine intervention to see the field.

Allen himself doesn’t appear to understand why he’s not playing, either.

Asked if he’s getting closer to being cleared to play, Allen responded, “That’s a Coach Tomlin question.”

Asked if it’s just taken a while to get over his knee injury, he said, after a five-second pause, “Ummmm, the situation is what it is. And… (4-second pause)… that’s just probably a question better answered by Coach Tomlin.”

Are you frustrated?

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http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2015/10/23/steelers-cornerbacks-cortez-allen-injury-heath-status/
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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 2:23 am

The reason he is not playing is because he can't go more than 3 plays without committing a penalty foul.

Every team knows this. He has a target on his back and is an automatic first down without even completing a pass.

Of course, and won't say this publicly, because it reflects poorly on himself and the team that decided to pay Allen millions.

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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 2:26 am

...And of course Cortez is not going to admit "i suck and I'm stealing money sitting on the bench".

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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 8:14 am

The Woodley contract is the worst signing of the Colbert/Tomlin era but the Cortez Allen deal is a strong #2.

At least with Woodley the Steelers lost $$$$ by signing a productive multi-year starter.

With Allen the Steelers simply panicked by signing a player with no strong track record but were frantic to sign a CB after Keenan Lewis walked.
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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 9:34 am

Atlanta Dan wrote:
The Woodley contract is the worst signing of the Colbert/Tomlin era but the Cortez Allen deal is a strong #2.

At least with Woodley the Steelers lost $$$$ by signing a productive multi-year starter.

With Allen the Steelers simply panicked by signing a player with no strong track record but were frantic to sign a CB after Keenan Lewis walked.

Yes, they pretty much had to take a risk, because they had no other depth at the position. Kind of like when they franchise tagged Max Starks and paid him like a top 5 LT, or transition tagged Jasom Worilds and paid him $9million for some dong sacks. Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' 1505004552

I think its a good situation of CB depth right now. Although, I honestly think Boykin deserves to be on the field over Blake.
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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 10:03 am

Atlanta Dan wrote:
The Woodley contract is the worst signing of the Colbert/Tomlin era but the Cortez Allen deal is a strong #2.

At least with Woodley the Steelers lost $$$$ by signing a productive multi-year starter.

With Allen the Steelers simply panicked by signing a player with no strong track record but were frantic to sign a CB after Keenan Lewis walked.

For the reasons you mentioned, I'd put the Allen contract as the worst.
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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 12:04 pm

Unless something radically changes, C. Allen is done as a Steeler. If he is even 90% healed and can't get on the field, officially label him as a bust.
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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 4:01 pm

Cortez has been put on IR.

I don't see him ever being in a Steelers uniform again.

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BlackAndGold wrote:
Cortez has been put on IR.

I don't see him ever being in a Steelers uniform again.

I'm afraid you are correct...

Steelers Sign QB Tyler Murphy Off Practice Squad, CB Cortez Allen Placed On IR

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/10/steelers-sign-qb-tyler-murphy-off-practice-squad-cb-cortez-allen-placed-on-ir/
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Cortez Allen's Future With Steelers Now In Doubt

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/10/future-of-steelers-cb-cortez-allen-now-in-doubt/
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PostSubject: Re: Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin'   Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 8:20 pm

Non sequitur of the day in this tweet from Mark Kaboly of the Trib Review



The Steelers had a choice - sign Allen not really knowing what they were getting or do not sign him and risk him walking if he had a great year.

That panic move may have been the last straw for only allowing players who had been in the system for several years to see the field under LeBeau - hard to see how the alternative of picking someone up off the waiver wire (like Cockrell) could have worked out any worse - may explain why the Steelers did not throw money at any of the DBs for  along term contract before the start of this season even though there are a lot of DBs in the last year of their contracts
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Four downs: Does CB Allen have a future with Steelers?

By The Tribune-Review
Saturday, Oct. 24, 2015

WHAT TO DO WITH CORTEZ?

Cortez Allen is the Steelers' highest-paid cornerback and fourth-highest paid player in terms of cap number. Not only can't he get on the field, but he also was placed on injured reserve Saturday, ending his season.

Allen spoke to the media last week with calculated responses to specific questions about his health and frustration of not playing. Translation: Allen is healthy enough to play, but the coaching staff doesn't trust him to be out there.

So what becomes of him after the season. Can the Steelers cut ties with him two years into his four-year extension worth $24.6 million? If the Steelers cut Allen before June 1, it would result in $4 million in dead money but a cap savings of $1.7 million. The Steelers could absorb that hit.

The issue is the Steelers don't have any cornerbacks under contract other than Allen and rookies Senquez Golson (IR) and Doran Grant (practice squad) for next season. William Gay, Antwon Blake, Ross Cockrell and Brandon Boykin are unrestricted free agents. That alone should ensure Allen will be around for another season.

ALLEN'S REMAINING CONTRACT

Year Salary Cap number

2016 $4.4M $5.75M

2017 $4.3M $5.65M

2018 $4.3M $5.65M

to read rest of article:

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9313376-74/steelers-allen-season#ixzz3pYTK7LP4
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^^ What a depressing read Cortez Allen says ask 'Coach Tomlin' 2217377625

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I guess the Citadel is not the place to go to when you are looking for NFL caliber CB's.
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Hawaii 5-0 wrote:
Four downs: Does CB Allen have a future with Steelers?

By The Tribune-Review
Saturday, Oct. 24, 2015

WHAT TO DO WITH CORTEZ?

Cortez Allen is the Steelers' highest-paid cornerback and fourth-highest paid player in terms of cap number. Not only can't he get on the field, but he also was placed on injured reserve Saturday, ending his season.

Allen spoke to the media last week with calculated responses to specific questions about his health and frustration of not playing. Translation: Allen is healthy enough to play, but the coaching staff doesn't trust him to be out there.

So what becomes of him after the season. Can the Steelers cut ties with him two years into his four-year extension worth $24.6 million? If the Steelers cut Allen before June 1, it would result in $4 million in dead money but a cap savings of $1.7 million. The Steelers could absorb that hit.

The issue is the Steelers don't have any cornerbacks under contract other than Allen and rookies Senquez Golson (IR) and Doran Grant (practice squad) for next season. William Gay, Antwon Blake, Ross Cockrell and Brandon Boykin are unrestricted free agents. That alone should ensure Allen will be around for another season.

ALLEN'S REMAINING CONTRACT

Year Salary Cap number

2016 $4.4M $5.75M

2017 $4.3M $5.65M

2018 $4.3M $5.65M

to read rest of article:

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9313376-74/steelers-allen-season#ixzz3pYTK7LP4

I would say look for the Steelers to sign Cockrell and one of either Boykin or Blake in the offseason. Gay could get a cap friendly 2 year or 3 year deal, bur remember he will be 31 next season and is nearing the end of his career.

Gholson has great quickness and ball skills and at the least I expect him to be a slot corner, more likely a guy that plays the boundary. Lots of people will complain that Doran Grant could not make the 53 and is a bust, but I tell you the kid has solid technique, is physical, can play man or zone and is an asset as a CB. The haters got all over Keenan Lewis early and I kept telling them he will be solid once he learns to play zone. Grant will earn a hat by playing special teams, but then get a chance if he keeps working.

I am not as down on the CB situation as this article. I personally think Boykin would be great to have long term, but not sure if somebody is going to offer him a good dollar and he will be gone. Personally I would like to see the Steelers sign Boykin, Cockrell, Gay and pair Grant and Gholson with them as the 5 going to camp next year if they are going to cut Allen.
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Cortez Allen placed on IR in favor of Tyler Murphy emergency quarterback.

Damn.

2 years so far of a completely wasted contract.

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The whole thing tells me the organization is really struggling evaluating secondary talent.
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SteelerFreak58 wrote:
The whole thing tells me the organization is really struggling evaluating secondary talent.

Fire LeBeau! Oh, wait....

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Cortez Allen’s Knee History Could Make Him NFL History Sooner Or Later

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/10/cortez-allens-knee-history-could-make-him-nfl-history-sooner-or-later/
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Interesting article from Steelers Depot.

Makes you wonder if this knee injury was the reason he never seemed to take the next step.
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Guest: Do you think Adams and Cortez are done as steelers?

Gerry Dulac: I think Cortez Allen is. You don't get benched twice and put on IR twice in two years and get a third try. Especially when he is scheduled to count $5.75 million against the cap in 2016. Even if they cut him, he will still count just slightly more than $4 million

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/10/28/Gerry-Dulac-s-Steelers-chat-transcript-10-28-15/stories/201510280178
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