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He will be playing with Chris Rainey in Canada next year. I still tell myself that Ross Cockrell was our 3rd round pick last year and I feel better about it.
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Wonder if Dri can hit a curve ball. He would make a great base runner.
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What number do you guys think Archer is going to wear for the Cardinals?

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I do like this move, but Special Teams needs to work on their blocking. I hope they turn it up with a returner of Jones' caliber on the team.

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Older with diminished skills. Still an upgrade. Didn't he start his career with the Raiders?
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Older with diminished skills. Still an upgrade. Didn't he start his career with the Raiders?
I'll take a diminished vet > speedy child Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1797695198

It looks like Jones was drafted by the Texans. 3rd round in 07. Man 2007 feels like ages ago.

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And he can do the Tango...bonus!

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Patriots* will pick up Archer and he will become a superstar! Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552
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Diminshed skills, slower, not having a good year......and he's still an upgrade over Archer.

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Patriots** will pick up Archer and he will become a superstar!  Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552

Hey, if it happens it will be the ultimate proof that Belicheat is a football genius.
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Patriots**** will pick up Archer and he will become a superstar!  Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552

Hey, if it happens it will be the ultimate proof that Belicheat is a football genius.

I think Belichick has already proven that he's a genius.  He continuously does more with less... while the Steelers overachieve on defense.... and continue to underachieve on offense despite having more talent to work with than the Pasterisks****.
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Patriots** will pick up Archer and he will become a superstar!  Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552

Pats* already picked up a good special teams player whom the Steelers released while the Steelers were in denial and still refusing to admit Archer was a failure

The Steelers cut one of their best special teams players on Oct. 13 when they had to activate Martavis Bryant to the 53-man roster. Ross Ventrone was injured with a hamstring injury, and instead of waiting for it to heal, the Steelers released him.

Ventrone was signed by the undefeated New England Patriots*’ active roster this week after being signed to their practice squad last week.

The Steelers kept Dri Archer around for another month, but his short tenure as kickoff returner was declared over Thursday afternoon when the Steelers signed Jacoby Jones and severed ties with their 2014 third-round draft pick.

Archer did next to nothing in those four games he played after Ventrone was cut, and now the Steelers are hoping Jones can kick-start their stagnant kickoff return game.

My only question is if the Steelers thought enough of Ventrone to keep him on their 53-man roster out of training camp, why not wait a couple of weeks for his hamstring to heal?

Archer has been expendable all along. Markus Wheaton could have returned kickoffs all season if the Steelers cut Archer in training camp, or when Bryant returned.

Maybe their plan was to sign Ventrone again when he healed, but other circumstances, such as the injuries the past few weeks, did not allow them to do so. We’ll never know for sure, but waiting on Archer to develop for another month might have cost the Steelers a valuable special teams player in Ventrone.


http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog/2015/11/06/On-DeAngelo-Williams-and-a-forgotten-special-teams-transaction/stories/201511060001

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FrancoLambert wrote:
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Patriots*** will pick up Archer and he will become a superstar!  Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552

Hey, if it happens it will be the ultimate proof that Belicheat is a football genius.

Really? I thought running rampant over the league for 14 years did.

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For what it's worth, Archer was 7th in the league in return yardage.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/returning/sort/kickReturnYards

Archer had a large amount of potential. However, there little to no results from that potential.

That was the balancing act; cut a player with potential and hope he doesn't find it elsewhere or continue to attempt to develop the potential into results.
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HeinzMustard wrote:
FrancoLambert wrote:
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Patriots***** will pick up Archer and he will become a superstar!  Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552

Hey, if it happens it will be the ultimate proof that Belicheat is a football genius.

I think Belichick has already proven that he's a genius.  He continuously does more with less... while the Steelers overachieve on defense.... and continue to underachieve on offense despite having more talent to work with than the Pasterisks****.
Unfortunately Bill Billichick will never garner the full respect he deserves because he was time and again proven to be a "genius" football coach who is willing to violate and circumvent the rules of the game to gain any sort of slight advantage possible.

Learning of Bellichick's cheating doesn't just make me lose respect for him-- it shows me his integrity and values as a person and he's the type of guy who could have a list of accolades and records a thousand items long, but the aspect of him that will always be what represents him and his career are his cheating scandals. A coach that great and a football mind that intelligent does not need to cheat/steal shit from the opponent. Period.

I lost respect for Tomlin in much the same way when he tripped Jacoby Jones. I've always loved Mike Tomlin for his authenticity and respect and humility, but an incident like that lets you see just a little too far into someone's soul to ever feel the same. That was absolutely asinine, inexcusable, and unthinkable. From a god damn SB winning coach of one of the most winning and respected franchises in sports history. If a player loses his cool and does something illegal to a player, the coach has a damn fit. I can't imagine what Tomlin felt like sitting in Rooney's office after that. Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1505004552 Never seen Mike the same since.

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For what it's worth, Archer was 7th in the league in return yardage.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/returning/sort/kickReturnYards

Archer had a large amount of potential. However, there little to no results from that potential.

That was the balancing act; cut a player with potential and hope he doesn't find it elsewhere or continue to attempt to develop the potential into results.
I think that statistic probably speaks more to the number of touchbacks than the skill and production of Dri Archer Steelers Claim KR Jacoby Jones, Release Dri Archer - Page 2 1797695198 . Archer was small and slow out there, two things you cannot be in the NFL. His 40yd dash time was great, sure, but have him run the 40yd dash with 11 guys running at him full speed and let's use that number to discuss his speed. Stats don't always equate to success in the game, though great players usually make that the case.

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Speaking of Bill Bellichick, the cheating knows no bounds. 19 of 25 coin tosses won, a probability of .0073 or less than three quarters of 1%.

http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-Patriots*-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/

I hate you Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll, and Malcolm Butler, for giving them another Lombardi as a gift.

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Drizztbob wrote:
And he can do the Tango...bonus!

If we're going for dance skills, then I say screw Jacoby, bring back Hines!

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Will Dri Archer be claimed on waivers?

Posted by Mike Florio on November 6, 2015

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The decision of the Steelers to claim via waivers the target of Mike Tomlin’s Thanksgiving night trip attempt from two years ago was the headline. The corresponding decision to dump a 2014 third-round pick drew far less attention.

Receiver Jacoby Jones is in, which means running back Dri Archer is out, only 20 regular-season games into an effort to make him into a jack-of-all-trades weapon who could give the offense an extra spark through raw speed.

Archer was pick 97 last year, taken six spots before Falcons running back Devonta Freeman. Some thought Archer would go even higher after running the 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine in 4.26 seconds.

But Archer simply couldn’t make an impact at the next level. And the Steelers finally decided to take an aging return specialist over a youngster who wasn’t fulfilling his potential.

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Speaking of Bill Bellichick, the cheating knows no bounds. 19 of 25 coin tosses won, a probability of .0073 or less than three quarters of 1%.

http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-Patriots**-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/

I hate you Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll, and Malcolm Butler, for giving them another Lombardi as a gift.

Bellicheat is a gift to paranoid conspiracy validators like myself. I'm actually convinced that The Patriots* control almost every nuanced facet of every regular season game to increase the probability of winning by small percentiles.

But honestly the biggest reason for their success is Gronk right now. I dont know if he smells like shit or something but he seems to have a magical 5 yard radius around him at all times. All though, The Patriots* are the biggest utilizer of "psuedo-legal" screen passes that pick and jam defenders. Phil Simms was complaining about seeing these plays, I cant remember which show it was. They're very cheap when designed right but technically legal. Gronk has the speed and armspan to seriously take advantage of these forced busted coverages. Bellicheat is a genius at exploiting any little advantage and it wins games. He's like those guys who play Madden and only run trick plays and money plays that never fail and end up in the upper 1%. Why should they play it how it should be played if they have better success otherwise? The Patriots* cant be challenged for the way they do things because to do so would cause damage to the NFL as a whole. Thats why all the hush hush tape stomping.

Btw any private investigator worth his salt can not only drown out whatever radio frequency the coach to coach headsets are on with the Patriots* Pregame show. (Thats not an accident. I find it very unlikely that all visiting coaches use a bad frequency thats being used by something else with a stronger strength of signal. If you've ever used one of those iTrip things that hook up to an ipod, you know you can play your ipod music over any clear radio signal as long as you are close enough to the antenna on your car. Theres nothing stopping me from turning it to some rap station and then muddling it with the other signal, creating a nice soupy cacophony of Lil Wayne x Slayer.) Well, besides that, theres nothing stopping a P.I. or just some tech savvy hacker kid sitting behind the visiting teams sidelines from tuning into the coach to coach headset frequency. While we coukd assume that most teams have enough sense and dignity NOT to. Just assume that at Gilette Stadium, the Patriosks can hear everything.

Some of this might just be me talking out of my ass but its still fun for me.
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KeepHarrisonTilHes92 wrote:
lotas wrote:
Speaking of Bill Bellichick, the cheating knows no bounds. 19 of 25 coin tosses won, a probability of .0073 or less than three quarters of 1%.

http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-Patriots***-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/

I hate you Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll, and Malcolm Butler, for giving them another Lombardi as a gift.

Bellicheat is a gift to paranoid conspiracy validators like myself. I'm actually convinced that The Patriots** control almost every nuanced facet of every regular season game to increase the probability of winning by small percentiles.

But honestly the biggest reason for their success is Gronk right now. I dont know if he smells like shit or something but he seems to have a magical 5 yard radius around him at all times. All though, The Patriots** are the biggest utilizer of "psuedo-legal" screen passes that pick and jam defenders. Phil Simms was complaining about seeing these plays, I cant remember which show it was. They're very cheap when designed right but technically legal. Gronk has the speed and armspan to seriously take advantage of these forced busted coverages. Bellicheat is a genius at exploiting any little advantage and it wins games. He's like those guys who play Madden and only run trick plays and money plays that never fail and end up in the upper 1%. Why should they play it how it should be played if they have better success otherwise? The Patriots** cant be challenged for the way they do things because to do so would cause damage to the NFL as a whole. Thats why all the hush hush tape stomping.

Btw any private investigator worth his salt can not only drown out whatever radio frequency the coach to coach headsets are on with the Patriots** Pregame show. (Thats not an accident. I find it very unlikely that all visiting coaches use a bad frequency thats being used by something else with a stronger strength of signal. If you've ever used one of those iTrip things that hook up to an ipod, you know you can play your ipod music over any clear radio signal as long as you are close enough to the antenna on your car. Theres nothing stopping me from turning it to some rap station and then muddling it with the other signal, creating a nice soupy cacophony of Lil Wayne x Slayer.) Well, besides that, theres nothing stopping a P.I. or just some tech savvy hacker kid sitting behind the visiting teams sidelines from tuning into the coach to coach headset frequency.  While we coukd assume that most teams have enough sense and dignity NOT to. Just assume that at Gilette Stadium, the Patriosks can hear everything.

Some of this might just be me talking out of my ass but its still fun for me.


I wouldn't say you're talking out of your ass. Is it not a fact that the Pats* have a special task force to look for any advantage they can have and any way then can bend the rules to increase there chances of winning the game.
I kind of admire belicicks unorthodox style but despise them for their ridiculous success. They are on a roll right now, brady is a machine, he receives the snap and in one fluid motion throws a very accurate pass to a receiver that is just always open. Its almost boring to watch.

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KeepHarrisonTilHes92 wrote:
lotas wrote:
Speaking of Bill Bellichick, the cheating knows no bounds. 19 of 25 coin tosses won, a probability of .0073 or less than three quarters of 1%.

http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-Patriots****-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/

I hate you Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll, and Malcolm Butler, for giving them another Lombardi as a gift.

Bellicheat is a gift to paranoid conspiracy validators like myself. I'm actually convinced that The Patriots*** control almost every nuanced facet of every regular season game to increase the probability of winning by small percentiles.

But honestly the biggest reason for their success is Gronk right now. I dont know if he smells like shit or something but he seems to have a magical 5 yard radius around him at all times. All though, The Patriots*** are the biggest utilizer of "psuedo-legal" screen passes that pick and jam defenders. Phil Simms was complaining about seeing these plays, I cant remember which show it was. They're very cheap when designed right but technically legal. Gronk has the speed and armspan to seriously take advantage of these forced busted coverages. Bellicheat is a genius at exploiting any little advantage and it wins games. He's like those guys who play Madden and only run trick plays and money plays that never fail and end up in the upper 1%. Why should they play it how it should be played if they have better success otherwise? The Patriots*** cant be challenged for the way they do things because to do so would cause damage to the NFL as a whole. Thats why all the hush hush tape stomping.

Btw any private investigator worth his salt can not only drown out whatever radio frequency the coach to coach headsets are on with the Patriots*** Pregame show. (Thats not an accident. I find it very unlikely that all visiting coaches use a bad frequency thats being used by something else with a stronger strength of signal. If you've ever used one of those iTrip things that hook up to an ipod, you know you can play your ipod music over any clear radio signal as long as you are close enough to the antenna on your car. Theres nothing stopping me from turning it to some rap station and then muddling it with the other signal, creating a nice soupy cacophony of Lil Wayne x Slayer.) Well, besides that, theres nothing stopping a P.I. or just some tech savvy hacker kid sitting behind the visiting teams sidelines from tuning into the coach to coach headset frequency.  While we coukd assume that most teams have enough sense and dignity NOT to. Just assume that at Gilette Stadium, the Patriosks can hear everything.

Some of this might just be me talking out of my ass but its still fun for me.


I wouldn't say you're talking out of your ass. Is it not a fact that the Pats** have a special task force to look for any advantage they can have and any way then can bend the rules to increase there chances of winning the game.
I kind of admire belicicks unorthodox style but despise them for their ridiculous success. They are on a roll right now, brady is a machine, he receives the snap and in one fluid motion throws a very accurate pass to a receiver that is just always open. Its almost boring to  watch.

Yeah Brady's probably on some Limitless pill cooked up in the Patriot's Lab.
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So the asshole didn't even bother showing up to work today. I knew he was a waste of money. Should have just kept Archer.

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#Steelers RB Dri Archer was not claimed. He’s now a free agent.

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