Ravens week (let's start drinking again)

SteelersNorth wrote:

stlrtruck wrote:

SteelersNorth wrote:

stlrtruck wrote:

Mach1 wrote:

Report: Steelers expect to have Ben Roethlisberger vs. Ravens

CBS NFL insider Jason La Canfora has reported that the Steelers are expecting to have Ben Roethlisberger back for the Steelers' Week 9 game against the Ravens.

Roethlisberger underwent surgery to repair a torn meniscus nearly two weeks ago after suffering the injury in Week 6 against the Dolphins.

"When the Steelers return from their bye to practice this week, team officials anticipate quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will participate in drills and be ready to face the Ravens in Week 9," La Canfora wrote. "Roethlisberger had surgery to repair a meniscus issue in his knee earlier this month, but the team's doctors expected two-to-three weeks of recovery time, and he is on schedule for that time frame."

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Steelers-expect-to-have-Ben-Roethlisberger-vs-Ravens-48628215

I'd rather see Landry Jones get the start.  If he can hold his own and the defense can surely tackle during the game, then it's really another week for Ben to heal and come back against a more difficult team in Dallas.  I know we can't look past the ratbirds, but I think Jones did enough last week to win the game and the results weren't of his own undoing.  Maybe he's finally getting it, maybe? Regardless, what we don't need is Ben out there against a defense looking to injure him even when he's 100%.

No he didn't do enough because if he did they very well may have won that game. Even though I don't think it would have mattered.

So again you're saying Ben is 100% sit him and start Jones?        
Why did the Cheatriots even bother bringing Brady back at being 3-1 without him?
Why did the Packers in 2014 bother playing Rodgers when his pussy calf injury 'slowed' him down? but because he played there's no excuse if it was 'that' bad you sit him regardless.

Simply put 80% of any of those guys including Ben are vastly superior than their back ups. You only play your back up QB when your main one is literally a cripple.

But to say start Jones over Ben is just insane! I'm sorry.

First, I believe Jones did do enough to win the game last week and it was more the screwed up coaching in the 4th as well as a swiss cheese defense that didn't help him out.  But that's water under the bridge.

Second, IF Ben were at 100% I'd have no problem with him being out there, but let's face it, Ben -most likely- isn't at 100% (and I'm talking specifically on the injured knee).  And playing a team with the history of brutal games and additional injuries doesn't make me feel any more confident if his knee isn't 100%.  I keep hearing 'sweep the leg'.  I just don't think Ben's knee is 100% ready and I feel confident Jones can win this game in Baltimore.  Worse case scenario is Ben is backup to Jones should Jones prove himself unable to handle the game.

You're still wrong whether you want to see it that way or not.
He won't play if HE doesn't feel comfortable. And specifically Ben said he has to feel good with the following: dropping back, stepping into a throw, and rolling out.

But you also failed to address my 2 other arguments:
Why did the Cheatriots waste their time bringing Brady back? They were 3-1 without him what's the point.
And in 2014 when Aaron 'God' Rodgers pulled his poor calf muscle for the NFC title game he still played.

Fact is all 3 give you the BEST chance to WIN regardless. But based on your method of thinking why risk Brady? or why Risk Rodgers?
I guess we should just hold Ben out if and when we make the playoffs then.

I'll even admit I don't think he will play all that well cause he never does after an injury and game speed is different than practice.
Having said that once again 80% Ben is still 'better' than 100% Jones.

stlrtruck wrote:

SteelersNorth wrote:

stlrtruck wrote:

SteelersNorth wrote:

stlrtruck wrote:

Mach1 wrote:

Report: Steelers expect to have Ben Roethlisberger vs. Ravens

CBS NFL insider Jason La Canfora has reported that the Steelers are expecting to have Ben Roethlisberger back for the Steelers' Week 9 game against the Ravens.

Roethlisberger underwent surgery to repair a torn meniscus nearly two weeks ago after suffering the injury in Week 6 against the Dolphins.

"When the Steelers return from their bye to practice this week, team officials anticipate quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will participate in drills and be ready to face the Ravens in Week 9," La Canfora wrote. "Roethlisberger had surgery to repair a meniscus issue in his knee earlier this month, but the team's doctors expected two-to-three weeks of recovery time, and he is on schedule for that time frame."

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Steelers-expect-to-have-Ben-Roethlisberger-vs-Ravens-48628215

I'd rather see Landry Jones get the start.  If he can hold his own and the defense can surely tackle during the game, then it's really another week for Ben to heal and come back against a more difficult team in Dallas.  I know we can't look past the ratbirds, but I think Jones did enough last week to win the game and the results weren't of his own undoing.  Maybe he's finally getting it, maybe? Regardless, what we don't need is Ben out there against a defense looking to injure him even when he's 100%.

No he didn't do enough because if he did they very well may have won that game. Even though I don't think it would have mattered.

So again you're saying Ben is 100% sit him and start Jones?        
Why did the Cheatriots even bother bringing Brady back at being 3-1 without him?
Why did the Packers in 2014 bother playing Rodgers when his pussy calf injury 'slowed' him down? but because he played there's no excuse if it was 'that' bad you sit him regardless.

Simply put 80% of any of those guys including Ben are vastly superior than their back ups. You only play your back up QB when your main one is literally a cripple.

But to say start Jones over Ben is just insane! I'm sorry.

First, I believe Jones did do enough to win the game last week and it was more the screwed up coaching in the 4th as well as a swiss cheese defense that didn't help him out.  But that's water under the bridge.

Second, IF Ben were at 100% I'd have no problem with him being out there, but let's face it, Ben -most likely- isn't at 100% (and I'm talking specifically on the injured knee).  And playing a team with the history of brutal games and additional injuries doesn't make me feel any more confident if his knee isn't 100%.  I keep hearing 'sweep the leg'.  I just don't think Ben's knee is 100% ready and I feel confident Jones can win this game in Baltimore.  Worse case scenario is Ben is backup to Jones should Jones prove himself unable to handle the game.

You're still wrong whether you want to see it that way or not.
He won't play if HE doesn't feel comfortable. And specifically Ben said he has to feel good with the following: dropping back, stepping into a throw, and rolling out.

But you also failed to address my 2 other arguments:
Why did the Cheatriots waste their time bringing Brady back? They were 3-1 without him what's the point.
And in 2014 when Aaron 'God' Rodgers pulled his poor calf muscle for the NFC title game he still played.

Fact is all 3 give you the BEST chance to WIN regardless. But based on your method of thinking why risk Brady? or why Risk Rodgers?
I guess we should just hold Ben out if and when we make the playoffs then.

I'll even admit I don't think he will play all that well cause he never does after an injury and game speed is different than practice.
Having said that once again 80% Ben is still 'better' than 100% Jones.

Sorry you don't like my opinion, just because you think I'm wrong doesn't mean it's necessarily off base.  And when you become the end-all be-all for all things Steelers, then I'll blindly follow your opinions.  Until then, I'll just go with my gut.

Second, Brady returned from suspension, not an injury.  Wouldn't make sense to hold him out.

Third, Rodgers, as you mentioned, was during the playoffs, IMO, that's a different scenario in which there is no return from.  This game against the ratbirds isn't lose and out.  There are more games to be played, and one of them is against the ratbirds on Christmas day.  If this game on Sunday was a playoff game or a make or break game, then I'd probably say let Ben play, but it's not.

Finally, being my opinion, I think it holds weight when you consider the teams we're facing down the stretch. Games where we'll need a healthier option at QB, and definitely a QB who can actually play at Ben's level.  I don't see the ratbirds being too much for Jones to handle, at least to start the game.

The risk out weighs the rewards at this point and considering the level of intent to hurt the ratbirds tend to bring towards Ben (and throw in the fact the refs tend to lose their flags), is this one game worth the rest of the season?  Not in my opinion.

Wallace108 wrote:

Losing to the Ravens Sunday doesn't mean the season is over. If a still-injured Ben plays and worsens the injury, the season is most definitely over. If Ben is 95 to 100 percent, there's no question that he should play. If he's 90 percent, you consider playing him based on how he looks and feels. Less than 90 percent, you take your chances with Jones and let Ben get healthy. Ben's health going forward is more important than beating the Ravens on Sunday.

SteelersNorth wrote:

Wallace108 wrote:

Losing to the Ravens Sunday doesn't mean the season is over. If a still-injured Ben plays and worsens the injury, the season is most definitely over. If Ben is 95 to 100 percent, there's no question that he should play. If he's 90 percent, you consider playing him based on how he looks and feels. Less than 90 percent, you take your chances with Jones and let Ben get healthy. Ben's health going forward is more important than beating the Ravens on Sunday.

Agreed it's not over.
But losing gets the Ravens back into the playoff picture which they have no business being in as it stands.
On top of that; beating them effectively ends their season.

Of course Ben's health going forward is what will make or break this team it has since day 1 really.

But we'll see what happens as the next 2 days unfold.

Wallace108 wrote:

Losing to the Ravens Sunday doesn't mean the season is over. If a still-injured Ben plays and worsens the injury, the season is most definitely over. If Ben is 95 to 100 percent, there's no question that he should play. If he's 90 percent, you consider playing him based on how he looks and feels. Less than 90 percent, you take your chances with Jones and let Ben get healthy. Ben's health going forward is more important than beating the Ravens on Sunday.

Wallace108 wrote:

Losing to the Ravens Sunday doesn't mean the season is over. If a still-injured Ben plays and worsens the injury, the season is most definitely over. If Ben is 95 to 100 percent, there's no question that he should play. If he's 90 percent, you consider playing him based on how he looks and feels. Less than 90 percent, you take your chances with Jones and let Ben get healthy. Ben's health going forward is more important than beating the Ravens on Sunday.

Roethlisberger was limited again today for #Steelers but look for him to be a full participant in practice Friday and start in Baltimore.

— Dale Lolley (@dlolleyor) November 3, 2016

Wallace108 wrote:

Losing to the Ravens Sunday doesn't mean the season is over. If a still-injured Ben plays and worsens the injury, the season is most definitely over. If Ben is 95 to 100 percent, there's no question that he should play. If he's 90 percent, you consider playing him based on how he looks and feels. Less than 90 percent, you take your chances with Jones and let Ben get healthy. Ben's health going forward is more important than beating the Ravens on Sunday.

effyou515 wrote:

there is no wild card for the Steelers playoff hopes.

OX1947 wrote:

2 weeks to prep, and that's what the coaching staff drew up?

Atlanta Dan wrote:

Roethlisberger warmed up in the tunnel beneath M&T Bank Stadium and the team has confirmed that he will be in the starting lineup against the Ravens.

The Steelers also will get offensive tackle Marcus Gilbert and defensive end Cameron Heyward back for their game in Baltimore. Both had missed multiple games with injuries.

Wide receiver Markus Wheaton, who practiced fully for the past two weeks while the Steelers were on a bye, was a surpising healthy scratch.

For Baltimore, wide receiver Steve Smith is active today and is expected to start.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/20161106/roethlisberger_active_for_steelers_and_will_start_against_ravens#.WB9gFQkFzZ8.twitter

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