Steelers cap issues

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We could save around 15.4 by losing Mitchell,Wilcox,Gay and DHB.

We may have to keep Mitchell for one more year by the other 3(saving us 7mil) are expendable IMO.

solardave wrote:

We could save around 15.4 by losing Mitchell,Wilcox,Gay and DHB.

We may have to keep Mitchell for one more year by the other 3(saving us 7mil) are expendable IMO.

i'm off the signing Bell wagon again, the money just isn't there and the Steelers have other holes to fill besides RB.

effyou515 wrote:

solardave wrote:

We could save around 15.4 by losing Mitchell,Wilcox,Gay and DHB.

We may have to keep Mitchell for one more year by the other 3(saving us 7mil) are expendable IMO.

i'm off the signing Bell wagon again, the money just isn't there and the Steelers have other holes to fill besides RB.

Depends on whether he comes to his senses. Judging by lately it could go either way. I see them tagging him again. Maybe not exclusive rights though. That way if he walks we get 2-1s for him.

solardave wrote:

effyou515 wrote:

solardave wrote:

We could save around 15.4 by losing Mitchell,Wilcox,Gay and DHB.

We may have to keep Mitchell for one more year by the other 3(saving us 7mil) are expendable IMO.

i'm off the signing Bell wagon again, the money just isn't there and the Steelers have other holes to fill besides RB.

Depends on whether he comes to his senses. Judging by lately it could go either way. I see them tagging him again. Maybe not exclusive rights though. That way if he walks we get 2-1s for him.

tag and some other team picks him up would be great.

A source told me today that the ice under Bell keeps getting thinner within the organization in regards to his future with this team.

Honestly I wonder if he and his shenanigans are worth the money. He had one rush of what 27 yards that was his longest run of the season? He's a good back, and particularly good at catching the ball but he doesn't have the speed to be a home-run threat in the running game and maybe I'm wrong but I swear he's lost a step.

IowaSteeler927 wrote:

Honestly I wonder if he and his shenanigans are worth the money. He had one rush of what 27 yards that was his longest run of the season? He's a good back, and particularly good at catching the ball but he doesn't have the speed to be a home-run threat in the running game and maybe I'm wrong but I swear he's lost a step.

I honestly don't think he had that step to loose.He never has been fast. He can go from stop to wide open for him and makes people miss but lately I don't know. He does seem like he is hesitant to hit the hole more than ever and that's why he's getting dropped in the backfield against aggressive defenses.
I said it more than once that it would be great to see Sequan Barkley ( will probably go #1) fall to us. I know, I know! Wish in one hand. I like Connor too and think he can be something special. Without Drama.

I just can’t see them paying a huge amount for a RB and not having to skim in other areas down the line. A big contract for Bell even one close to what was offered last year will put major issues on the cap for us.

solardave wrote:

IowaSteeler927 wrote:

Honestly I wonder if he and his shenanigans are worth the money. He had one rush of what 27 yards that was his longest run of the season? He's a good back, and particularly good at catching the ball but he doesn't have the speed to be a home-run threat in the running game and maybe I'm wrong but I swear he's lost a step.

I honestly don't think he had that step to loose.He never has been fast. He can go from stop to wide open for him and makes people miss but lately I don't know. He does seem like he is hesitant to hit the hole more than ever and that's why he's getting dropped in the backfield against aggressive defenses.
I said it more than once that it would be great to see Sequan Barkley ( will probably go #1)  fall to us. I know, I know! Wish in one hand. I like Connor too and think he can be something special. Without Drama.

He just looked extra slow to me this season. I think the run blocking was partially to blame for the lack of big running plays, but watching Bell he just looked a step slower than normal, and that's saying a lot, because as you yourself stated, he was never fast to begin with.

Source: the Steelers have created $13.26M in cap space for 2018 by reworking the deals of G David DeCastro and DE Stephon Tuitt. Each player reduced his base salary to $790K for 2018, converting the rest of his base salary and a roster bonus into a signing bonus.

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) February 10, 2018

Ben will sign a 1-2 year extension next.

Last year we had cap room. Now we're back to what we've done for years,restructure. We know Bell can make this team better but he also can tear it apart. On game day watching what he does makes me want to sign but then he goes off on twitter saying some stupid shit and I forget the good and want him gone. I guess I'm on the fence about Bell.

solardave wrote:

Last year we had cap room. Now we're back to what we've done for years,restructure. We know Bell can make this team better but he also can tear it apart. On game day watching what he does makes me want to sign but then he goes off on twitter saying some stupid shit and I forget the good and want him gone.I guess I'm on the fence about Bell.

what I have read about Fitchner's offensive running game he didn't use a lot of inside zone running plays he's more power runs and getting the edge of the d-line.

Even if Bell stays they need to bring in another decent back-up RB. Right now, we only have Conner and he has a history of injuries. Even this year with limited snaps he was done for the season.

Stella Nation wrote:

Even if Bell stays they need to bring in another decent back-up RB. Right now, we only have Conner and he has a history of injuries. Even this year with limited snaps he was done for the season.

I liked the little I saw from Ridley. I think we only signed him for last season though. I agree we need someone fast enough to get around the corner that runs hard every time.If Connor gets healthy and stays that way I think he could be the guy. We may find out if Bell goes.

If Bell stays I hope Fichtner, like Whiz, and Arians before him realizes the #2 back needs to be involved.  

Haley just ran his #1 into the ground until he got hurt, then did the same thing to whomever the #2 was.

Use Ridley as the #2 back, and Conner as the 3rd down back.  That should keep everyone happy.

Crash wrote:

If Bell stays I hope Fichtner, like Whiz, and Arians before him realizes the #2 back needs to be involved.  

Haley just ran his #1 into the ground until he got hurt, then did the same thing to whomever the #2 was.

Use Ridley as the #2 back, and Conner as the 3rd down back.  That should keep everyone happy.

I agree except if Connor stays healthy I think he's a better #2 when he gets his share of reps.

solardave wrote:

Stella Nation wrote:

Even if Bell stays they need to bring in another decent back-up RB. Right now, we only have Conner and he has a history of injuries. Even this year with limited snaps he was done for the season.

I liked the little I saw from Ridley. I think we only signed him for last season though. I agree we need someone fast enough to get around the corner that runs hard every time.If Connor gets healthy and stays that way I think he could be the guy. We may find out if Bell goes.

conner was limited in his playing time because his pass blocking sucked.

James Conner’s Struggles In Pass Protection Keeping Him Off The Field
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/10/james-conners-struggles-pass-protection-keeping-off-field/

Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

solardave wrote:

Stella Nation wrote:

Even if Bell stays they need to bring in another decent back-up RB. Right now, we only have Conner and he has a history of injuries. Even this year with limited snaps he was done for the season.

I liked the little I saw from Ridley. I think we only signed him for last season though. I agree we need someone fast enough to get around the corner that runs hard every time.If Connor gets healthy and stays that way I think he could be the guy. We may find out if Bell goes.

conner was limited in his playing time because his pass blocking sucked.

James Conner’s Struggles In Pass Protection Keeping Him Off The Field
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/10/james-conners-struggles-pass-protection-keeping-off-field/

OK. I didn't see him enough to know that but now it makes sense.

So TEACH him.

Hopefully now that the slacker is gone someone finally will.

He did pass protect at PITT, it's not like he's being asked to split the atom.

I'm sure the coaches worked on his pass protection. Maybe it's out of his grasp. Some of these guys aren't the sharpest knives.

solardave wrote:

I'm sure the coaches worked on his pass protection. Maybe it's out of his grasp. Some of these guys aren't the sharpest knives.

You might be right, but he doesn't come across as a moron. I have a feeling there's some technique issues as well as understanding of the rules around pass protection that he just needs to come up to speed on. I'm not worried about it because he was a rookie. We'll see if he figures things out in year 2.

Conner isn't dumb. His intelligence as far as football IMO was one of his best traits at PITT.

I like him as the 3rd down back because he'll see more open space. And with his weight loss he looks much quicker, and faster, than he did at PITT.

The ONLY way he shouldn't be the 3rd down back? Is if Bell goes and he's then the #1. As a #2 back IMO that doesn't put him on the field enough if the way Bell is used stays the same.

solardave wrote:

Stella Nation wrote:

Even if Bell stays they need to bring in another decent back-up RB. Right now, we only have Conner and he has a history of injuries. Even this year with limited snaps he was done for the season.

I liked the little I saw from Ridley. I think we only signed him for last season though. I agree we need someone fast enough to get around the corner that runs hard every time.If Connor gets healthy and stays that way I think he could be the guy. We may find out if Bell goes.

I like Ridley too, he got limited touches but that guy runs hard. I think they definitely need to keep him on board. Let him and Conner fight it out in camp to be the #2 back.