The NFL has emphasized player safety during the past year, but the Steelers are questioning whether the league is doing enough to protect defensive linemen from cut and chop blocks.
At least their defensive linemen.
A number of players voiced concerns about what they described as illegal chop blocks by the Baltimore Ravens — notably to 325-pound nose tackle Casey Hampton.
Hampton said he was continuously cut blocked from the backside by Baltimore right guard Marshal Yanda, some of which were blatant illegal chop blocks.
"You can get hurt from an illegal chop block, but I guess it isn't an illegal chop block if they don't call it," Hampton said.
No penalties were called Sunday, and the Ravens gained the most rushing yards against the Steelers in 22 games.
A cut block is a block below the waist when a player is not engaged with another player. It is illegal to cut from behind. A chop block occurs when a player is engaged with another player and is hit below the waist.
"Some of the things they were doing were questionable rules wise and dangerous," nose tackle Chris Hoke said.
Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:59 am
Stop your whining. Get over it, not like those penalties mattered. You got your arses handed to you last Sunday, move on!
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Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:05 am
I thought everyone knew that the NFL doesn't care about lineman safety.
Also, I didn't know Hampton played for the Squealers.
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Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:17 am
I know Jon, it must blow your mind that the Ravens could be accused of being low-life, dirty sons-of-bitches. Exhibit A: After Polumalu owned Rice, he had to be a little bitch and grab Troy from behind:
Exhibit B: Fans like these:
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Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:35 am
Hampton and Hoke must not know anything about life in Baltimore City: Snitches get stitches
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Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:22 am
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Hampton and Hoke must not know anything about life in Baltimore City: Snitches get stitches
Seeing crap like that makes me cringe. In my opinion the biggest problem in this country has nothing to do with politics, it's the lack of basic freaking morals.
Hampton and Hoke must not know anything about life in Baltimore City: Snitches get stitches
Seeing crap like that makes me cringe. In my opinion the biggest problem in this country has nothing to do with politics, it's the lack of basic freaking morals.
I feel like we've had this conversation somewhere before...
And yes, in Baltimore they probably do get stitches, from being stabbed and being taken from behind. If that's how y'all do it in Baltimore it's no wonder y'all have male cheerleaders.
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Casey's Case User Rating: / 0 PoorBest THURSDAY, 15 SEPTEMBER 2011 13:20 WRITTEN BY DAN GIGLER Going to the tape, it's there plain as day: Casey Hampton getting very obviously illegally chop or cut blocked, as he said during locker room interviews yesterday (second item).
Check out the screen grab below, and then watch it in real time speed.
This is from the first play of the game -- Ray Rice runs for 36 yards
It certainly looked like a chop block to me in that first clip and picture. Hampton is fully engaged with the center when Yanda cuts his legs out from under him. Textbook chop block.
As the blogger also pointed out though, that was not the reason the Steelers lost that game for sure. They got their asses handed to them in all aspects of the game Sunday. That doesn't mean that these guys should be allowed to potentially end someone's career by utilizing dangerous illegal tactics.
Baltimore fans.... who's the "cheap shot artists" now? A hard-nosed WR who gives enough of a shit to play the game the way it should be played and actually blocks hard (not his fault if defenders aren't paying attention with their head on a swivel!) or guys who blatantly use illegal moves that could ruin a guy's career?
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In any event, let's quit bitching about it and use it on the Ravens o-linemen next game then! __________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Steelers apparently don’t understand the chop block rule
Posted by Mike Florio on September 15, 2011, 3:39 PM EDT
Getty Images As MDS pointed out earlier in the afternoon, the Steelers are complaining about the Ravens’ use of illegal chop blocks.
But the Steelers, and folks like ESPN’s Merril Hoge, apparently don’t understand the chop block rule.
An illegal chop block doesn’t occur when, for example, the center engages the nose tackle and one or both of the guards block him low. Instead, an illegal chop block happens only when the offensive lineman delivering the low block was originally lined up more than one position away from the offensive lineman who initially has engaged the defender.
Here’s the official rule, which a league source has forwarded to PFT: “On a running play, A1, an offensive lineman, chops a defensive player after the defensive player has been engaged by A2 (high or low), and the initial alignment of A2 is more than one position away from A1. The rule applies only when the block occurs at a time when the flow of the play is clearly away from A1.”
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Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:42 am
Buddha Bus wrote:
Steelers apparently don’t understand the chop block rule
Posted by Mike Florio on September 15, 2011, 3:39 PM EDT
Getty Images As MDS pointed out earlier in the afternoon, the Steelers are complaining about the Ravens’ use of illegal chop blocks.
But the Steelers, and folks like ESPN’s Merril Hoge, apparently don’t understand the chop block rule.
An illegal chop block doesn’t occur when, for example, the center engages the nose tackle and one or both of the guards block him low. Instead, an illegal chop block happens only when the offensive lineman delivering the low block was originally lined up more than one position away from the offensive lineman who initially has engaged the defender.
Here’s the official rule, which a league source has forwarded to PFT: “On a running play, A1, an offensive lineman, chops a defensive player after the defensive player has been engaged by A2 (high or low), and the initial alignment of A2 is more than one position away from A1. The rule applies only when the block occurs at a time when the flow of the play is clearly away from A1.”
This rule is only in effect until Brady or Manning gets "chop blocked", or until the Steelers start using these tactics. What's to stop and offensive lineman from diving at knees now?
Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:12 am
BGSU A Dub wrote:
]This rule is only in effect until Brady or Manning gets "chop blocked", or until the Steelers start using these tactics. What's to stop and offensive lineman from diving at knees now?
No doubt.
This rule is BS anyway. If someone is taking out your knees, who the hell cares where they lined up at???
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Subject: Re: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:32 am
The Titans' D coordinator offered his opinion on this subject.
Titans defensive coordinator has a plan for Ravens cut blocks
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16
On Thursday, we learned that the Steelers believe that the Ravens are getting away with illegal chop blocks. Then we learned that the Ravens aren’t technically performing chop blocks.
And now the situation has gone to a new level, with Titans defensive coordinator Jerry Gray explaining that the Titans will fight the Ravens’ fire with a little fire of their own.
“They’re trying to cut you and do those things,” Gray said, per John Glennon of the Tennessean. “You’ve got to make sure you’re doing something that’s hopefully going to hurt them, too. You can’t just be the recipient of everything. You’ve got to start doing something that’s going to get you back on track and hopefully they’ll tone that stuff down when you do something else.”
The NFL surely won’t be happy with that kind of candor. Legal tactics that may injure an opponent is one thing. Deliberately trying to injure an opponent is another.
Look for the NFL to let the Titans know — swiftly — that any evidence of attempts to injure other players will be met with significant discipline.
