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IowaSteeler927
Posts : 5054 Join date : 2015-04-11 Location : Des Moines, Iowa
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:06 am | |
| - ImperialFan wrote:
- Hes fast but hes got no juke moves, he runs straight into tackles.
I think a lot of his issues last year were with him being too nervous, and shying away from contact. He's bulked up a little bit this year to help with the contact issues and durability. I think he's going to be an asset to this team, I might be wrong, and he could very well go the other way and not be on the roster next season but I have a good feeling about the kid. _________________ "Success isn't owned, it's leased and the rent is due every day." - TJ Watt | |
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Fire Arians
Posts : 2051 Join date : 2011-11-11
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:52 am | |
| - ImperialFan wrote:
- Hes fast but hes got no juke moves, he runs straight into tackles.
I kinda see that too, he's straight line fast but not really quick. for a RB or slot wr quick is more important imo | |
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kirklandrules
Posts : 1870 Join date : 2011-08-25 Location : Riiiiight heeeere
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:57 am | |
| - Fire Arians wrote:
- ImperialFan wrote:
- Hes fast but hes got no juke moves, he runs straight into tackles.
I kinda see that too, he's straight line fast but not really quick. for a RB or slot wr quick is more important imo Same thing can be said about almost every rookie. Let's see if he starts to play with more speed this year, with the game slowing down for him. | |
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WVABE
Posts : 246 Join date : 2015-04-15 Location : Deep in a holler of WV
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:37 pm | |
| If he can use his speed to cut the corner on 3rd and 4 to go and pick up 5 yards, than that's what we need. Run game still rules in this pass happy league. | |
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BlackAndGold
Posts : 603 Join date : 2015-04-08
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:05 pm | |
| Q: Is Todman the beginning of the end for Archer?
Gerry Dulac: No. Archer is a specialty player who they hope develops into a top kick returner. If he doesn't, Archer will be the end for Archer
http://www.post-gazette.com/chat _________________ Known as BLACK_AND_YELLOW from SF
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jak341
Posts : 3609 Join date : 2015-04-09 Location : Pittsburgh
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:48 pm | |
| Todman is the end of Josh Harris (who was cut already).
Dulac is correct though. If Archer can develop into a top flight kick returner (see Dante Hall, Dave Megget, and Eric Bieniemy), it will have been worth the pickup. | |
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Fire Arians
Posts : 2051 Join date : 2011-11-11
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:43 pm | |
| i still think archer can find a niche as a slot receiver, if he's shown anything so far, he's shown that he's got hands | |
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FrancoLambert
Posts : 763 Join date : 2015-05-02 Location : Tony Soprano's neighborhood
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:23 pm | |
| Speed, good hands, elusiveness, dangerous kick returner, weapon out of the backfield......I've heard about all of these football talents that Dri Archer has.
Honestly, I can't remember seeing any of these "significantly" in the time he's been here.
Long kick or punt returns....I don't remember any. Speed he has....displayed it at the combine. Weapon out of the backfield.....I don't remember any splash play where he turned a short dump off into a long gainer. I don't expect him to be a star immediately, I just want to see some big plays from him and I don't think we have seen enough in the one season and two preseasons he's been on the team. I'm sure some will remember one or a few, but I don't count him as a dangerous weapon yet.....especially for a 3rd round pick. | |
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ImperialFan
Posts : 2019 Join date : 2015-04-17 Location : Syracuse, NY
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:51 pm | |
| A kick returner is all I could see him end up being. Antonio Brown is just so damn good at returning kicks. Hes patient and has some quick moves to make teams miss tackles so far I see none of that from Dri, and no improvement from last season to this pre season. I did see Dri TRY to return a couple of kicks but he was literally dragged down by his feet every time. _________________ | |
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WVABE
Posts : 246 Join date : 2015-04-15 Location : Deep in a holler of WV
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:02 pm | |
| I did see Dri TRY to return a couple of kicks but he was literally dragged down by his feet every time. AB needs to teach him some of those karate moves. | |
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SteelerEmpire
Posts : 293 Join date : 2012-01-12 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:47 am | |
| Their gonna have to use his speed and start sending him deep because he sucks on those runs out of the backfield, catches short passes but sucks on yards after the catch. _________________ | |
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FrancoLambert
Posts : 763 Join date : 2015-05-02 Location : Tony Soprano's neighborhood
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:57 pm | |
| Damn it.....I thought for sure that last night we would unveil our secret weapon....Dri Archer. What I found amusing was during the pregame chatter, Collinsworthless and Michaels mentioned that Belicheat was concerned about how the Steelers would use Archer. He dressed, but I don't think he played a snap.... unless I missed one. | |
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El-Gonzo Jackson
Posts : 1826 Join date : 2015-04-18
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:10 pm | |
| Waste of a 3rd round pick. Doesn't contribute on kick return, or offense. Could use Justin Ellis instead of him right about now. | |
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Fire Arians
Posts : 2051 Join date : 2011-11-11
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:15 pm | |
| I think Archer would excel in the slot, I'd be up for putting him in at that spot over DHB who at this point in his career, won't progress any further than what we've seen.
They HAVE to have some sort of plan on using him on offense, I don't believe they would use a 3rd rounder on a kick return specialist. Don't like 80% of kickoffs end up as touchbacks anyway? | |
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KeepHarrisonTilHes92
Posts : 852 Join date : 2015-04-12 Location : Living in my fears
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:25 pm | |
| - Fire Arians wrote:
- I think Archer would excel in the slot, I'd be up for putting him in at that spot over DHB who at this point in his career, won't progress any further than what we've seen.
They HAVE to have some sort of plan on using him on offense, I don't believe they would use a 3rd rounder on a kick return specialist. Don't like 80% of kickoffs end up as touchbacks anyway? I think we should trade him to the Eagles. Their offense could use him better and their coach tosses players around like they are pokemon cards. | |
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Stella Nation
Posts : 1506 Join date : 2015-05-13 Location : Stella City
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:26 pm | |
| [quote="KeepHarrisonTilHes92"] - Fire Arians wrote:
- I think Archer would excel in the slot, I'd be up for putting him in at that spot over DHB who at this point in his career, won't progress any further than what we've seen.
They HAVE to have some sort of plan on using him on offense, I don't believe they would use a 3rd rounder on a kick return specialist. Don't like 80% of kickoffs end up as touchbacks anyway? I think we should trade him to the Eagles. Their offense could use him better and their coach tosses players around like they are pokemon cards.[/quote For that 5th round pick we traded Boykin for | |
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Hawaii 5-0
Posts : 2482 Join date : 2015-04-19
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:16 pm | |
| On offense, there weren't many surprises, but Dri Archer's 3 snaps out of 11 situations makes you wonder what the team's plans for him might be. The Steelers are using a roster spot on a player who's turning into a special teams specialist in a game that essentially has eliminated kickoff returns from the offensive repertoire, and they don't use Archer on punt returns.
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2015-nfl-regular-season-pittsburgh-steelers-new-england-Patriots*-tickets-predictions-streaming-time-how-to-watch/2015/9/12/9315367/pittsburgh-steelers-playtime-snap-totals-vs-the-new-england-Patriots* | |
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Stella Nation
Posts : 1506 Join date : 2015-05-13 Location : Stella City
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:46 am | |
| Archer should have been cut instead of Doran Grant. Better to admit that you have wasted a pick than possibly waste 2 picks if a team should pick up Grant from the practice squad. | |
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pczach
Posts : 952 Join date : 2015-04-28 Location : Stunted Growth PA
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:48 am | |
| - Hawaii 5-0 wrote:
- On offense, there weren't many surprises, but Dri Archer's 3 snaps out of 11 situations makes you wonder what the team's plans for him might be. The Steelers are using a roster spot on a player who's turning into a special teams specialist in a game that essentially has eliminated kickoff returns from the offensive repertoire, and they don't use Archer on punt returns.
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2015-nfl-regular-season-pittsburgh-steelers-new-england-Patriots**-tickets-predictions-streaming-time-how-to-watch/2015/9/12/9315367/pittsburgh-steelers-playtime-snap-totals-vs-the-new-england-Patriots** He's a special teams specialist that hasn't been very good on special teams. It's hard to justify him taking a spot on the roster when he has such little value or versatility. | |
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El-Gonzo Jackson
Posts : 1826 Join date : 2015-04-18
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:59 pm | |
| So when Bell comes back, who gets released? Jordan Todman, Archer or Rosevelt Nix? | |
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BlackAndGold
Posts : 603 Join date : 2015-04-08
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:06 pm | |
| Archer was a wasted pick but, I'd be shocked if he gets cut.
So either Nix or Todman. _________________ Known as BLACK_AND_YELLOW from SF
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El-Gonzo Jackson
Posts : 1826 Join date : 2015-04-18
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:35 am | |
| - BlackAndGold wrote:
- Archer was a wasted pick but, I'd be shocked if he gets cut.
So either Nix or Todman. True, but Todman can run thru gaps without being knocked over by the towel on somebodys waist.....Archer cant. Todman can also cover kick returns, Archer cant. Todman ran a 4.4 at the combine...Archer ran better. I'm thinking they don't need 2 FB on the squad and Nix gets cut and signed to the PS, but will not be surprised if they cut Archer or Todman. | |
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FrancoLambert
Posts : 763 Join date : 2015-05-02 Location : Tony Soprano's neighborhood
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:38 pm | |
| Fire Archer Please....acknowledge the mistake and move on. | |
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FrancoLambert
Posts : 763 Join date : 2015-05-02 Location : Tony Soprano's neighborhood
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ImperialFan
Posts : 2019 Join date : 2015-04-17 Location : Syracuse, NY
| Subject: Re: It's Time to Shut Up About Dri Archer. Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:35 pm | |
| Archer would make a good purse snatcher _________________ | |
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