Trade Claypool? (update: TRADED)

Rumor has it that the Steelers are considering trading Claypool and want a 2nd rounder for him.

What do you think?

Will it happen, and what do you think of this potential move?

Dump him for a 2nd in a heartbeat. He is worried more about his brand then he is the team.

We just traded him to the Bears for a second round pick. C'mon Bears, now TANK!

That's a good trade! Now they can start building a real Oline with a First and 2 2nd round picks. Get some Monsters that move a line and make holes and are competent pass blockers.

If we can run the ball effectively it will open up play action and the passing for the team. If teams can't stop the run everything else falls into place and we become contenders again.

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

That's a good trade! Now they can start building a real Oline with a First and 2 2nd round picks. Get some Monsters that move a line and make holes and are competent pass blockers.

If we can run the ball effectively it will open up play action and the passing for the team. If teams can't stop the run everything else falls into place and we become contenders again.

Yes, what I was thinking. 3 picks in the first 2 rounds, lets draft 3 hog-nasty O-linemen and FIX THIS!

Glad he's gone honestly. Dude never played up to his billing. Disappeared in far too many games for a guy that was supposed to be so fast for his size. I also got tired of watching him jump for passes that he didn't need to jump for. I do wish him the best, but I'm not losing any sleep over getting a 2nd Rounder for him either.

We need to stack some picks and o-line needs to be addressed in next year's draft.

Time to get a true LT to protect these young QBs blind side.

effyou515 wrote:

Time to get a true LT to protect these young QBs blind side.

We need to draft some big uglies, the kinds of guys the Ravens draft and put together a nasty o-line that can maul defenders in the running game. Time to get back to Steeler football.

It really annoys me that we had the opportunity to draft guys like Creed Humphrey and Tyler Linderbaum within the past few seasons and we instead draft Najee who hasn't shown me anything to inspire confidence and is getting outplayed by UDFA Jaylen Warren in all aspects of the position.

We drafted Kenny Pickett, which I will give him, the jury is still out, but I feel like you should work on the trenches before you go and draft skill positions. They basically slapped a band-aid on a very porous o-line from last season and brought in Mason Cole and James Daniels. I think Daniels was an upgrade over what we had, and Cole is more consistent than Kendrick Greene ever was, but I don't feel like the "improvements" are all that noticeable. Dan Moore is a turnstyle, not a franchise LT. Kevin Dotson got absolutely exposed by the Eagles. We need upgrades at LT, LG, and C in my honest opinion and Chuks has never really impressed me all that much over at RT either.

O-line has to be the focus in the 2023 Draft and the offseason.

IowaSteeler927 wrote:

effyou515 wrote:

Time to get a true LT to protect these young QBs blind side.

We need to draft some big uglies, the kinds of guys the Ravens draft and put together a nasty o-line that can maul defenders in the running game. Time to get back to Steeler football.

It really annoys me that we had the opportunity to draft guys like Creed Humphrey and Tyler Linderbaum within the past few seasons and we instead draft Najee who hasn't shown me anything to inspire confidence and is getting outplayed by UDFA Jaylen Warren in all aspects of the position.

We drafted Kenny Pickett, which I will give him, the jury is still out, but I feel like you should work on the trenches before you go and draft skill positions. They basically slapped a band-aid on a very porous o-line from last season and brought in Mason Cole and James Daniels. I think Daniels was an upgrade over what we had, and Cole is more consistent than Kendrick Greene ever was, but I don't feel like the "improvements" are all that noticeable. Dan Moore is a turnstyle, not a franchise LT. Kevin Dotson got absolutely exposed by the Eagles. We need upgrades at LT, LG, and C in my honest opinion and Chuks has never really impressed me all that much over at RT either.

O-line has to be the focus in the 2023 Draft and the offseason.

IMHO all we really need to get this Oline on track is LT,LG,C,RT,RG. Then use the current starters as backups.

solardave wrote:

IowaSteeler927 wrote:

effyou515 wrote:

Time to get a true LT to protect these young QBs blind side.

We need to draft some big uglies, the kinds of guys the Ravens draft and put together a nasty o-line that can maul defenders in the running game. Time to get back to Steeler football.

It really annoys me that we had the opportunity to draft guys like Creed Humphrey and Tyler Linderbaum within the past few seasons and we instead draft Najee who hasn't shown me anything to inspire confidence and is getting outplayed by UDFA Jaylen Warren in all aspects of the position.

We drafted Kenny Pickett, which I will give him, the jury is still out, but I feel like you should work on the trenches before you go and draft skill positions. They basically slapped a band-aid on a very porous o-line from last season and brought in Mason Cole and James Daniels. I think Daniels was an upgrade over what we had, and Cole is more consistent than Kendrick Greene ever was, but I don't feel like the "improvements" are all that noticeable. Dan Moore is a turnstyle, not a franchise LT. Kevin Dotson got absolutely exposed by the Eagles. We need upgrades at LT, LG, and C in my honest opinion and Chuks has never really impressed me all that much over at RT either.

O-line has to be the focus in the 2023 Draft and the offseason.

IMHO all we really need to get this Oline on track is LT,LG,C,RT,RG. Then use the current starters as backups.

I see what you did there.

IowaSteeler927 wrote:

effyou515 wrote:

Time to get a true LT to protect these young QBs blind side.

We need to draft some big uglies, the kinds of guys the Ravens draft and put together a nasty o-line that can maul defenders in the running game. Time to get back to Steeler football.

It really annoys me that we had the opportunity to draft guys like Creed Humphrey and Tyler Linderbaum within the past few seasons and we instead draft Najee who hasn't shown me anything to inspire confidence and is getting outplayed by UDFA Jaylen Warren in all aspects of the position.

We drafted Kenny Pickett, which I will give him, the jury is still out, but I feel like you should work on the trenches before you go and draft skill positions. They basically slapped a band-aid on a very porous o-line from last season and brought in Mason Cole and James Daniels. I think Daniels was an upgrade over what we had, and Cole is more consistent than Kendrick Greene ever was, but I don't feel like the "improvements" are all that noticeable. Dan Moore is a turnstyle, not a franchise LT. Kevin Dotson got absolutely exposed by the Eagles. We need upgrades at LT, LG, and C in my honest opinion and Chuks has never really impressed me all that much over at RT either.

O-line has to be the focus in the 2023 Draft and the offseason.

100% on the shape of the Steelers o-line left side LT and LG need up graded no way getting around that. Moore might be the run blocking RT / LT the o-line needs you can see he doesn't have the skill to be a NFL LT, Chuks imho is just a body on the field. Through the draft and free agency the o-line needs a serious up grade.

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-tomlin-says-steelers-made-the-chase-claypool-trade-because-of-the-compensation/

Mike Tomlin says Steelers made the Chase Claypool trade because of the compensation

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At 3-5, the Bears’ slot in each round figures to fall in the 10th-15th pick range, At 2-6, the Steelers are projected as having a top-five pick in the draft. The Claypool trade could mean they have three picks among the top 40-50 selections.

Having 2 high 2nd round picks in 2023 draft nice.

effyou515 wrote:

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-tomlin-says-steelers-made-the-chase-claypool-trade-because-of-the-compensation/

Mike Tomlin says Steelers made the Chase Claypool trade because of the compensation

Quote :

At 3-5, the Bears’ slot in each round figures to fall in the 10th-15th pick range, At 2-6, the Steelers are projected as having a top-five pick in the draft. The Claypool trade could mean they have three picks among the top 40-50 selections.

Having 2 high 2nd round picks in 2023 draft nice.

Yeah this is where I would agree with Tomlin, and completely agree with the trade.

Great Randino wrote:

effyou515 wrote:

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-tomlin-says-steelers-made-the-chase-claypool-trade-because-of-the-compensation/

Mike Tomlin says Steelers made the Chase Claypool trade because of the compensation

Quote :

At 3-5, the Bears’ slot in each round figures to fall in the 10th-15th pick range, At 2-6, the Steelers are projected as having a top-five pick in the draft. The Claypool trade could mean they have three picks among the top 40-50 selections.

Having 2 high 2nd round picks in 2023 draft nice.

Yeah this is where I would agree with Tomlin, and completely agree with the trade.

Let's hope Tomlin doesn't take a couple of project players with, "a lot of up side" and he just picks proven players at their respective positions. It's not rocket science when it comes to Offensive linemen but Tomlin sure has fucked things up already...

SteelerFreak58 wrote:

Great Randino wrote:

effyou515 wrote:

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-tomlin-says-steelers-made-the-chase-claypool-trade-because-of-the-compensation/

Mike Tomlin says Steelers made the Chase Claypool trade because of the compensation

Quote :

At 3-5, the Bears’ slot in each round figures to fall in the 10th-15th pick range, At 2-6, the Steelers are projected as having a top-five pick in the draft. The Claypool trade could mean they have three picks among the top 40-50 selections.

Having 2 high 2nd round picks in 2023 draft nice.

Yeah this is where I would agree with Tomlin, and completely agree with the trade.

Let's hope Tomlin doesn't take a couple of project players with, "a lot of up side" and he just picks proven players at their respective positions. It's not rocket science when it comes to Offensive linemen but Tomlin sure has fucked things up already...

Are you sure it's Tomlin? I've read this on another forum in a Najee Harris discussion and looks more like Colbert has fucked it up to me.

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I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.

If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.

The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.

Could have been Colberts fault but Tomlin had a say in the matters he could have said No... GMs aren't sole arbiters of picks.

The way they have mismanaged the draft picks and the Oline since Pouncey, Decastro, and Vilanueva have left is just outrageous. Blame has to land at Tomlins feet.

They went bargain basement and cheap. Their whole philosophy is to be able to run the ball and they got stupid and have tried to put together a cheap patchwork Oline and it shows weekly. They are undisciplined they are unsure of themselves, they get beat at the point of attack, they are poorly coached, they are on good days simply mediocre, on bad days they are costing the team successful drives.

If it was Colbert he's gone so. I think it was bad decisions all around when it comes to the Oline. Let's face it. Our next man up on that line probably wouldn't make anyone else's roster.
Burns was a bust. Bush is a bust. Although Highsmith has progressed faster than DuPree I don't think he'll be worth what he wants when his contract is up.
If they don't address the Oline early and often next year we'll know it wasn't all Colbert.
Then there are our issues at ILB and on the Dline

I'm not a big Tomlin fan. Especially the streak of bad OC and OL coaches since Munchack I hold against him. That being said, he's somehow still a top 10 HC in the NFL. Compared to the likes of Staley, Kingsburry, Taylor and many others he's a genius. It's baffling to me that there are only 3 very good to elite coaches (Belichick, Reid, McVay) and then you have a bunch of above average or mediocre coaches (Tomlin, Harbough, Carroll, Vrabel...) followed by 20 below average or really dogshit HCs. The only coach who can make the leap to very good/elite is McDermott imo. How does it come there are so few quality HCs while the NFL is the only professional league that matters in the sport?

Agree about McDermott. I would have to say, this season, I'd put Carroll in the Elite category. What he's done with an absolutely shitty team is nothing short of amazing - including reviving Geno Smith's dead career.

Yes, what Carroll is doing this season is amazing, but he will never be an elite coach to me because of the way he lost the SB to the Patriots*. That was the dumbest playcall on one play ever. You have freaking Marshawn Lynch in his prime and all you need is one yard. How hard can it be!