Roethlisberger hurting after big hit

You also labeled Ben a "Game Manager" based on the number of pass attempts in regular season.  

To that I responded with this:  

He also missed four regular season games (MY guess is you didn't look at that number thus not putting Ben's attempts in their correct context).  

In 16 total games that season?  Here are Ben's numbers, in his 2nd year in the league, and won a ring:

226 of 361 (62% ) for 3188 yards (8.3 YPA) for 24 TDS 12 INTS, 99.3 QB rating 5 rush tds = 29 total TDs

To compare here are 2001 Tom Brady's numbers in 18 total games, also his 2nd year in the league, and won a ring:

324 of 510 (63%) for 3415 yards (6.9 YPA) for 19 TDS 13 INTS, 84.7 QB rating 1 rush td = 20 total TDs

Ben is almost a yard and a half better in YPA, 15 points better in QB rating, and has 9 more total TDs despite playing in two less games.

I did Brady a favor by comparing their whole seasons, if I did it just by post season it wouldn't even be close.

Just who was the game manager of the two?

Why are you ignoring debate?  If anyone is being negative here, it's YOU.

mrcrash wrote:

I'm discussing this football team.  

Didn't you call me a "dick"?

Is that allowed?  

You started with the personal attacks, and I responded. Technically, you could have been banned by now. From the Code of Conduct:

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In three years we've never had to ban anyone other than spammers. I have no desire to make you the first. You read my PM. I made you an offer. The ball is in your court. I'm not going to discuss anything football related with you until you agree to the terms I mentioned in the PM.

OK....I agree.

Now answer my questions.

I wish I could hate you, but there's something about you I like. PLEASE don't make me have to ban you. I'm begging you.

Wallace108 wrote:

mrcrash wrote:

All he's done, is limit his chances to throw

The most passes Ben attempted in one season under Arians is 513 in 2011. Last year, Ben attempted 584 passes. Yeah, it sucks that Haley won't let Ben throw the ball.

Aren't those stats without putting them in their proper context?

mrcrash wrote:

OK....I agree.  

Now answer my questions.

I have a shit memory. I forget the questions.

At least you're honest.

Better than trying to bullshit your way through it.

mrcrash wrote:

At least you're honest.

Better than trying to bullshit your way through it.

Dude, you and I can get along just fine if you honestly want to be a part of our community. I meant what I said in the PM. You're a smart guy and can offer a lot to this board. If I can get you to drop the constant negativity, you'd be a huge asset to this community. I have no problem with criticizing any aspect of the team. Hell, me and Drizz argue about Ike Taylor all the time. Drizz HATES Ike. We've had some really good discussions (and I was right, of course ). I believe that as fans, we have the right to criticize when it's warranted. I've been a member of boards where any criticism of the team is squashed, and I didn't like it. Personally, I don't believe in being a mindless homer (no offense to those who are ... there's no "right" way to be a fan). But constant negativity grows tiresome.

As for answering your questions, I'll answer them after you respond to my Colts post and/or the 2011/2012 offense comparison post in the Haley thread. My posts came first. So, technically, you ignored me first. And I've had way too many beers tonight for rational thought.

And do me a favor ... read my PM one more time and think about what I said.

Have we gotten any update on if BR7 is still hurting?

Full participant in practice all week.

mrcrash wrote:

Full participant in practice all week.  

Thank you Crash.

SteelersYak wrote:

mrcrash wrote:

Full participant in practice all week.  

Thank you Crash.

Holy shit! This'll be a rare statement.

Yep, i'm drunk, getting off here.

bayz101 wrote:

SteelersYak wrote:

mrcrash wrote:

Full participant in practice all week.  

Thank you Crash.

Holy shit! This'll be a rare statement.

Yep, i'm drunk, getting off here.

Join you in a few!!!

SteelersYak wrote:

bayz101 wrote:

SteelersYak wrote:

mrcrash wrote:

Full participant in practice all week.  

Thank you Crash.

Holy shit! This'll be a rare statement.

Yep, i'm drunk, getting off here.

Join you in a few!!!

Woke up this way --- long night. I'll join ya for round two, though.

Same here. I had 2 weddings this weekend.... YOWZA

Hey, wait, did I accidentally stumble into Night Owls?

Where's my beer?

Cheers!