How far can Vick take us.

FrancoLambert wrote:

Buddha Bus wrote:

We're totally in that douche's head. The better question would be why would a fan of a team**** that has supposedly "legitimately" dominated the league for the past 15 years care what fans of an alleged "inferior" team (albeit by a senile retard) thinks about aforementioned team****? And why would that fan spend as much time as he/she does trolling their board unless he/she is just trying to convince himself/herself that said team**** isn't just a farcical joke squad full of cheaters and knows deep down that he/she is living a complete lie?

Someone should do a case study.

           

And that's the end of that.  

Great post Buddha!

     

Thank you, kind sir.

Wallace108 wrote:

Dave75th wrote:

Wallace108 wrote:

Dave75th wrote:

That's not very nice Tony. And BTW, if you want to talk smack, please take it to the appropriate forum.

@Dave75th, you started off here posting respectfully. At some point, you went off the rails. As evidenced by Jon, fans of other teams are welcome here, and we enjoy some good-natured ribbing. But trolling will not be tolerated. Smack talk (within reason) from fans of other teams is acceptable only in the Smackdown forum. If you want to be a member of this community and post respectfully, you'll be accepted here. If you want to be a troll, we both know how the story ends. I'm giving you an opportunity to get back on track, so I hope you take it.

You moderate a forum that automatically puts an asterisk after a team that has dominated the league for 15 years and you expect respect? Go fuck yourself.

The only thing we expect is for members here to not act like douchebags. We even allow entertaining trolls to hang around as long as they continue to be entertaining. You failed on every level, so goodbye.

damn. You're starting to act just like that sissy a****** moderator Tony hip chest. He was always banning people who told him to f*** off for nothing more than simply moderating a message board, and putting dick heads in check.

One thing I miss about SF boards is the Sissy Moderator Emoticon. But at least this place has this nice little gem for post troll bannings.

El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:

One thing I miss about SF boards is the Sissy Moderator Emoticon.  But at least this place has this nice little gem for post troll bannings.

I heard the reason that place went under is because that sissy moderator banned every single member for disagreeing with him.

In fact, one time he bannned a member in the recipe forum for suggesting that coriander was more popular than all spice.

tony hipchest wrote:

El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:

One thing I miss about SF boards is the Sissy Moderator Emoticon.  But at least this place has this nice little gem for post troll bannings.

I heard the reason that place went under is because that sissy moderator banned every single member for disagreeing with him.

In fact, one time he bannned a member in the recipe forum for suggesting that coriander was more popular than all spice.

if only that sissy moderator could have just pulled up his granny panties and gotten over it

Well, obviously Vick couldn't sneak out a W in the first winable game he played in. Hopefully the lessons were learned (obviously Scoobee was shown the door) and we can eek one out in San Diego. We don't seem to play well on the west coast but hopefully we can make some magic happen.

tony hipchest wrote:

El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:

One thing I miss about SF boards is the Sissy Moderator Emoticon.  But at least this place has this nice little gem for post troll bannings.

I heard the reason that place went under is because that sissy moderator banned every single member for disagreeing with him.

In fact, one time he bannned a member in the recipe forum for suggesting that coriander was more popular than all spice.

Frankly, Tony, you banned me several times for disagreeing with you and insulting you. Although it may have been uncalled for and sometimes my rants may have been borderline trolling, it was bullshit. You may remember me as BlaZeQuietly.

I am glad I found a place where I can kind of flip out sometimes with out being banned. I dont think anything I do here is considered trolling although I may act like a psycho once in a while.

vasteeler wrote:

tony hipchest wrote:

El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:

One thing I miss about SF boards is the Sissy Moderator Emoticon.  But at least this place has this nice little gem for post troll bannings.

I heard the reason that place went under is because that sissy moderator banned every single member for disagreeing with him.

In fact, one time he bannned a member in the recipe forum for suggesting that coriander was more popular than all spice.

if only that sissy moderator could have just pulled up his granny panties and gotten over it

I stand by my opinion that Vick did a good job. He made a great block that allowed Bell to score a TD and played smart and didnt turn the ball over. I am fine with him as the back up until Ben gets back. I think Vick is one of the better back ups in the league. However I dont think he has played good enough to earn him a starter spot in the league anywhere ever again.

Vick was ok.
I miss Chuck at qb (when called upon) and even Gradkowski as he reminded me of a younger Chuck.

I'm hoping Vick pulls one off this week now that we get Bryant back.

SteelersNorth wrote:

Vick was ok.
I miss Chuck at qb (when called upon) and even Gradkowski as he reminded me of a younger Chuck.

I'm hoping Vick pulls one off this week now that we get Bryant back.

Vick proved to be accurate enough that I think we can turn him loose in the passing game at least. The game plan by the coaches was a winning game plan and would have worked. Basically they made Vick play super conservative only using short passes and handing the ball off a lot. It would have worked fine and we would have won the game 23-17 or 26-17 had we had a kicker that was worth his weight in aluminum.

there's no way he's that accurate to even have a game plan close to what they could make up for Ben.
Now i'm not syaing make it so he's super conservative as he will need to throw deep to open it up underneath, but still make it so its high percentage throws that don't burn them for the most part.

Yeah I mean there no way to really say because we never had him throw the ball over like 15 yards. I just hope that we have a better game plan against San Diego. I think its going to come down to our defense and our KICKER on if we can pull off a win there or not. Although we are famous for playing poorly on the west coast we are going to be coming off what 10-11 days rest for this game? Between this one and the Cardinals home game I think the Chargers is a game we probably have a better chance of winning. Now that ben is expected to be back for the chiefs game if we could just split the next two games and have Ben return to a 3-3 team I would really like our chances to make the playoffs and perhaps even take the division because I could still see us sweeping the Bengles and the Bengles losing a few games down the stretch.

Ed B of the P-G adds another nugget on how Vick not being up to speed on the playbook and adjusting to defenses was a problem last Thursday night

With 1:51 left in regulation Thursday night, the Steelers had a third-and-five at Baltimore’s 24. The Ravens lined up just 10 players on defense. The Steelers called their second timeout, bailing out that defense.


http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog

[quote="Atlanta Dan"]Ed B of the P-G adds another nugget on how Vick not being up to speed on the playbook and adjusting to defenses was a problem last Thursday night

With 1:51 left in regulation Thursday night, the Steelers had a third-and-five at Baltimore’s 24. The Ravens lined up just 10 players on defense. The Steelers called their second timeout, bailing out that defense.


http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog
[/quote


Yeah that too. That time out befuddled me, it went on the assumption we would actually make a first down at some point. which we were incapable of doing for the final 30 minutes of the game

Pittsburgh Steelers made the right move with Michael Vick

By Anthony Defeo on Oct 15, 2015



With Ben Roethlisberger out of the lineup with an MCL sprain, the Steelers' offense certainly hasn't looked like the juggernaut that it should be. But backup Mike Vick, while not nearly the complete player that No. 7 is, has managed to do just enough as a starter during the past two weeks. The Steelers are just trying to survive until Roehlisberger returns, and Vick has certainly done his part.

They say the NFL is a quarterback-driven league, and you don't have to look any further than the Steelers offensive production since Ben Roethlisberger was injured in Week 3 at St. Louis to see why that's the case.

The sports car that was supposed to be Pittsburgh's 2015 offense has been sputtering the past few weeks, and why? Because the regular driver isn't behind the wheel. This is not a new phenomenon, by the way. While filling in for the injured Terry Bradshaw in 1976, backup quarterback Mike Kruczek had a total of zero touchdown passes in six games (and a 6-0 record, thanks to some of the best defense ever played in the history of the league).

In 2014, Pittsburgh's upcoming opponent, the Cardinals, watched their season go down the drain after Carson Palmer was lost with a knee injury and his backup was also soon injured. Once a 9-1 team with aspirations of playing the Super Bowl in their home stadium, Arizona was down to Ryan Lindley at quarterback and was just looking for a soft place to land once the postseason started, which they did following a 27-16 loss to the sub-.500 Panthers in the first round--Lindley contributed just 82 yards through the air in the game.

There's no way around it, a team just isn't going to be the same without its starting quarterback, and the higher the pedigree and production of said quarterback, the swifter the fall. Roethlisberger averaged 360 passing yards per game through his two full starts, before suffering the MCL sprain in the Week-3 victory over the Rams. In stepped Michael Vick, who has averaged just over 163 yards per game through the air as a starter.

The truest barometer of the importance of a top-shelf NFL passer may be the steep drop in production of all-world receiver Antonio Brown since Week 3. After setting a record for catching at least five passes for at least 50 yards in 35-straight games, Brown has a grand total of 87 yards the past two weeks with Vick as the starter.

But you know what? The Steelers made the right move by signing Vick in August following the injury suffered by Bruce Gradkowski in the third preseason game. Vick may not be an elite quarterback with a great passer rating and completion percentage, but he's also not a quarterback that has done a whole lot to make his team lose the two games he's started.

Any way you slice it, the Steelers should be 2-0 with Vick as the starter, and they would be if not for those missed field goals by Josh Scobee near the end of regulation in the game against Baltimore on October 1. Vick may have only passed for 124 and averaged a paltry 4.8 yards per attempt, but he took care of the football, made a nifty block that helped spring Le'Veon Bell for Pittsburgh's first touchdown in the first half and threw a laser to Darius Heyward-Bey for a 9-yard touchdown pass in the second half. No, Vick didn't carry the Steelers, but he managed them to what should have been a victory.

to read rest of article:

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-opinions-reactions-news-updates/2015/10/15/9530461/pittsburgh-steelers-made-the-right-move-with-michael-vick

I think he'll be fine if they let Vick be Vick. He'll never be Ben, so they have to let him do what he does. Scramble and throw deep. He's never been an accurate pocket passer, he's at his best when he can roll out and burn people for chunks of yardage at a time.

One thing I find impressive, is despite being on the wrong side of 30 the guy can still run and take hits

Steelers OC Haley: Priority for Vick remains protecting football

By Mark Kaboly
Thursday, Oct. 15, 2015



Tale of the tape

A comparison of the Steelers offense in games started by Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Vick:

Roethlisberger Vick

Record 2-1 1-1

Average passing yards 304 182.5

Average rushing yards 93.3 161

Average total yards 397.3 343.5

Third-down conversion percentage 51.3 25.9

Nothing changes.

That was offensive coordinator Todd Haley's message heading into Sunday's game against the NFC West-leading Arizona Cardinals at Heinz Field.

Not with what he expects out of fill-in quarterback Mike Vick.

Not with how he has been calling games with Vick under center.

And especially not trying to force the ball to receiver Antonio Brown.

The plan remains the same.

A day after Brown asked Vick to “trust him” and throw him the ball more, Haley didn't want to hear about a receiver requesting more passes thrown his way, especially after a win.

“Last week, did he get the ball enough?” Haley said of Brown. “Yep. We won, so that's all that's important right now.”

The Steelers' once-potent offense has sputtered since Ben Roethlisberger went down with a knee injury nine quarters ago and Vick took over:

• The offense fell from fifth to 13th in the NFL.

• The passing game dipped from third to 19th.

• In 32 drives, Vick has led the offense to more than two first downs only four times.

• Ten times they have gone three-and-out.

• The offense has scored only 40 points.

While the numbers aren't pretty, Vick is a 41- or a 49-yard Josh Scobee field goal against the Ravens from being 2-0 as a starter.

That's all Haley cares about.

to read rest of article:

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9271120-74/vick-haley-ball#ixzz3omM2nzXn

Protect the ball yes, but let him do what he's comfortable doing.

Until they ran the 72 yard play Vick seemed chained up and he's lucky the DBs had butter fingers or otherwise he gets a 2nd, REAL pick.

Play conservative but let Vick take deep shots and scramble if necessary. Don't laze back the first series just because it's the first series. Perhaps even elect to defer in the first quarter and trust your defense who is playing the better side of the ball. Gives Vick a chance to come back in the 3rd and either keep momentum or make a comeback.

I was critical of Vick all game long until the Bomb and even then I didn't feel too good. Then we drove the entire field in less than 2 minutes and won with a walk off TD. Those 2 series proved that I think we can win with Vick. But do what the situation/game calls for or we're in trouble without Ben.

Vick is going his job just fine. You cant expect him to get in there and blow up the scoreboard, id he were that good someone else would have found him before we did. My point is he is keeping us in games and giving us a chance to win. You cant expect him to play like a starter, because hes not one.

It wouldnt surprise me if Ben comes back for next week, he participated in a limited practice thursday and even though that would be probably considering "rushing" him back. I saw if hes at even 50% hes better than vick.

Landry is clearly stunting Vick's growth in this system.

i was very impressed with Landry. He looked good today

Jones played with the confidence of a vet, which was surprising. He may have established himself as our #2 and possibly an opportunity to be a starter for another team